Itching! very important

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17/02/2009 at 07:26
Hi ladies
i have noticed that a few pregnant ladies recently have mentioned itching so i thought i would post some info and i would be very greatful if you could all read and keep it bumped as it could save a life.

Description: Obstetric Cholestasis (OC) (also referred to as Intrahepatic Cholestasis in Pregnancy - ICP) is a liver condition of pregnancy that can, in severe cases, result in stillbirth. However I, like many other ladies, had never heard of it before my health visitor sent me for the test which revealed that my bile acids were high enough to class me as -severe'.

I think it is very important pregnant woman are aware of this potentially life threatening ( to the baby) condition so that they can report any symptoms to their midwife/GP/consultant and be investigated.

Also, it would be good to share information and support each other. I know that when I found out I had it I felt alone and a failure and that's why I would like to help other women who may be feeling the way I did.

If you suspect you may be suffering from obstetric cholestasis then please seek medical attention asap!

The liver is in the upper right part of the abdomen. The functions of the liver include: storing glycogen (fuel for the body) which is made from sugars; helping to process fats and proteins from digested food; making proteins that are essential for blood to clot (clotting factors); processing many medicines which you may take; helping to remove poisons and toxins from the body.

The liver also makes bile. This is a green/yellow fluid which contains bile acids, and waste products such as bilirubin. Liver cells pass bile into bile ducts in the liver. B
bile flows down the ducts into larger ducts, eventually leading to the common bile duct. The gallbladder is like a 'cul-de-sac' reservoir of bile which comes off the common bile duct. After you have eaten, the gallbladder squeezes bile back to the common bile duct , down into the duodenum.

Bile in the gut helps to digest fat.


Once the baby is born the woman's liver function should return to normal. This usually happens very quickly (within 8 weeks) but some women have taken a little longer. If the liver does not return to normal then further investigation is required as there may be an underlying liver problem that has not been identified.



Please visit this web site: it is very good and full of up to date info.
www.ocsupport.org.uk


Recent NewsObstetric cholestasis is thought to affect around 4,500 women a year in the UK. It is known to be familial (passed down through families). Women who are expecting more than one baby also have an increased chance of developing it. Symptoms can include:
??????? Itching - typically from around 28 weeks (although it can be earlier than this) and usually on the palms of the hand and soles of the feet. It can also be generalised. It is worse at night and can be so severe as to cause the woman to scratch herself until she bleeds.
??????? Extreme fatigue and insomnia (because of the itching)
??????? Pale stools
??????? Jaundice (although less than 20% of women with OC will develop jaundice)
??????? Nausea (leading to possible weight reduction for the woman)

Cholestasis means there is a reduced flow of bile resulting in an increased amount of bile salts in the woman's blood. As well as looking at the ALT (alanine transferase) it is the bile salts that many researchers believe confirm that diagnosis for OC. It is also thought that these bile salts (also referred to as bile acids) may be the cause of any risk to the unborn baby although researchers have not identified a definite cause. Some research has been conducted on the placenta and so it might be that the bile acids (which are known to cross the placenta) cause it to stop working properly or perhaps reduce oxygen flow to the baby. Other research has looked at the effect bile acids have on heart cells and so it may that the baby's heart stops working. Much more research is needed to prove exactly what is happening. However, this is the reason why many clinicians will deliver around 37-38 weeks as there is a small amount of data to suggest that that delivering early may reduce the risk of stillbirth.

Because emphasis has been placed on bile acids the drug currently used to treat OC is Ursodeoxycholic acid (UDCA). It has been found that this drug helps many women with their itch and reduces the bile acid levels of many (but not all) women. Vitamin K is also used to reduce the risk of severe bleeding post delivery although there is no medical evidence to show that it can do this.



Oc can be very dangerous, if you have any questions feel free to ask.

Goodluck with your pregnancies.
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17/02/2009 at 09:31
Hello

I am itching all over my stomach. i have a rash that started under my breasts last Friday morning and spread to the very tops of my leg. I saw the emergency doctor and they have prescribed me anti histamine. You haven't said where it is itchy - anywhere? What do you think?

Nicki
17/02/2009 at 09:51
if you have a rash it is most likely an allergy, with oc because its to do with liver there is no rash. the itching is usually on hands and feet-can be any where though.

It is ALWAYS worth mentioning to mw though as they dont usually test for it.xxx
17/02/2009 at 14:54
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17/02/2009 at 15:22
Glad you have put this blog on here as i too had Obstetric Cholestasis severly with my daughter, resulting in me being induced with her over three weeks early. Unfortunately my local hospital wasnt very good on the whole condition, everyone we spoke to told us different things and also itchy hands and feet was never anything mentioned to me to look out for. Looks like im developing it again with this pregnancy but luckily due to my history im getting monitored more regularly. Definately if you have any itchiness on your soles of your feel and the palms of your hands, which usually will get worse at night go straight to your MW or hospital so they can do blood tests as it isnt worth the risk !
18/02/2009 at 04:47
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18/02/2009 at 07:07
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18/02/2009 at 07:15
Nic - I have had this too on my tummy and boobs. It is a red rash and sooo itchy it is untrue. I was waking up scratching it in my sleep.

I am using aqueous cream with calamine (I got it at Boots) and it has made the world of difference. I have to use it morning and evening but it has stopped the itching. xxx
18/02/2009 at 07:45
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18/02/2009 at 09:21
Mrs Poppet - Thanks for your reply. My rash is not so red anymore, but you can definately feel the bumps under my skin still. Were you prescribed the aqueous cram with calamine or did you just buy it over the counter? I will definately try this out. Thanks Nicki
18/02/2009 at 10:56
I have had very itchy hands for about 2 months now but no itchy feet. my belly has also started itching the last week or so aswel, do u think there could be a connection? x
18/02/2009 at 11:05
I had no idea about this, thanks very much for posting about it. No one has ever mentioned it to me before so I haven't thought to look out for it. I've had really bad itching all over which gets worse at night for a few weeks now but its never my hands and feet. Do you think I need to get checked out? I'm not seeing midwife until 27th, is that too long to wait?
Thanks
Emma 37+6
18/02/2009 at 12:32
My sister in law had this. Hers got to such a stage that she also started showing signs of jaundice. Again, no one really knew what this was and she was quite poorly. Thankfully, Maddie arrived after a horrid labour but very healthy and is now a healthy 2 year old but sister in law was very ill in the lead up to her birth. Definately worth getting checked out.
18/02/2009 at 16:44
Please get checked out asap,if you have itching. dont be afraid it really is better to be safe than sorry.

At 12 weeks my levels came back elevated but because i hadnt started to itch no one said anyhting to me,at 30weeks my hv came to visit and rushed me into hospital-where within the hour i was admitted with sky high levels,they injected my with steroids(even though ihad them at 26wks when i went into labour). i had then doctors arguing,they wanted ym baby out there and then,eventually it was decided to induce at 36+5, i was meant to be in hospital until my baby was born but i refused (not realising the danger)i had to have blood tests/ecgs/dopplers/scans every 48 hours.
when i was induced(though had been in labour 10 weeks already),i was in active labour 40 hours when they scanned again-the consultant just 'felt' something wasnt right and i began to bleed excessivly.
I was rushed to theatre for em section, they opened me up and the bleeding increased.
My babies placenta ruptured and they literally snatched her out in time else she would def not be here now.
I dont want to scare anyone but it really is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo important ladies.xxx
18/02/2009 at 16:53
thanks for this quuen bee after being itchy for a while now although its not my hands and feet its everywhere else i mentioned to my midwife the itch and she said as i was having bloods done i might as well have that one done as well shes gonna call me friday with the results. tbh im not really worried as its only really bad at night thanks again
claire
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18/02/2009 at 17:02
The itching can be anywhere,i itched all over from the soles of my feet to the top of my head,i still itch now 7months after birth-it is worse @ night.
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19/02/2009 at 06:11
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19/02/2009 at 09:22
I just wanted to update on this one, I went to MW app this morning and mentioned the itching and im going for blood tests tomorrow. So was definatly worth mentioning.
Mine is also a lot worse at night than during the day.
19/02/2009 at 10:02
i am so glad mrs dickson,really hope its not but it is better to be safe than sorry.
if these results come back neg but your itching continues you should make sure they take your bloods fort nightly though to check it doesnt develop.xx
19/02/2009 at 13:46
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