i need help (also in pnd)

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12/11/2010 at 10:44
Hi this is going to be a long one

I have 2 daughters 6 and 6 months, before i had my baby i had 3 MC's and suffered from depression I had alot of anxiety when i was pregnant about losing the baby and when she came along it took me about 4 weeks to bond with her as i thought something might happen to her. Everything was fine and has been great but i got pregnant and had a missed MC 2 weeks ago with a ERPC. I was sad but i had my baby that i always wanted so i felt i delt with it ok.

Last week i started struggling, i can't leave the house unless someone is with me infact i struggle to leave the living room unless i really have to (get milk or go to the toilet) when my husband is home i have to be in the same room as him and get snappy and angry at him when he goes to the toilet because i have to be without him for 15 mins. I cant do anything in the house i don't want to have a bath unless my husband is home and then i just sit there.

Today i had a total freak out that my baby wasn't mine, like i was just looking after her for someone, I feel like i'm going crazy!

I went to the doctors yesterday and she seems to think this is a bereavement issue but i don't. I've had really bad depression in the past (the type where you hallucinate and hear things) i don't want to get that bad. Could this be delayed PND? or depression? I don't believe i am depressed because of the recent MC but it has triggered something else. i have been prescribed citalopram.
12/11/2010 at 11:00
Heya Hun I'm so sad to hear your feeling so rubbish. I've had depression too, it just has a way of consuming you that you don't realise and have no control over..
Do you ever feel like you should be ok and Should be happy because you've got the things you wanted? I sometimes feel so determined to feel that way that I kinda make it harder for myself.
It does sound like pnd and it'll take a week or something for the tablets to kick in I guess.
All I can suggest is to keep talking about how your feeling, if you let everything in your head out that could help, however mad it may feel to you. Feel free to message me if you like, I don't know if I could help but you wouldn't have to worry about offending me.
please dont hide away from your friends if you can help it. I know if I feel low the first thing I do is hide.


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12/11/2010 at 11:03
i just feel like i don't deserve to feel sad about the baby as i have the baby i always wanted. i feel worthless and useless. i'm fed up of pretending everything is ok
12/11/2010 at 11:06
You do have every right to feel sad about your baby, all the what ifs and why's, of course you can be sad. I really wish I could come and give you a hug x

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12/11/2010 at 11:08
You don't have to pretend to us x

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12/11/2010 at 11:25
TM - huge hugs, really sorry to hear you're feeling like this , as HappyMrsG says, you've every right to feel like you do, and we're all here for you if you need us.

I've no experience of depression, or PND, but have heard from others that it does take a while for the tablets to start to have an effect. Is there someone who could come and stay with you, or just come and visit you every day in the interim? If not, please feel free to sound off to us on here, we won't mind!

Has your GP offered to refer you to counselling? I don't even know if that would help, but if she hasn't, you may want to consider asking her for a referral.
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12/11/2010 at 11:33
Sorry to hear you are feeling like this. I have suffered from depression too in the past and I know how debilitating it can be. It does sound as though you need some support and I hope the tablets ease things.

When I had problems the best thing that helped me was counselling. I saw a lady who was fantastic and it really helped, she also did a lot of relaxation and meditation techniques which helped me. I hope things improve for you soon. Take care x
12/11/2010 at 11:34
she is sending me for bereavement councelling but i don't really think that will help as this isn't about the MC it's just that it has triggered it.
12/11/2010 at 11:39
I feel totally normal when my husband is at home, it's like i can't function without him and he is the only person that can keep me safe.
12/11/2010 at 13:05
Hey TM.
This is by no means a comparison to your situation but after I MC our first I needed hubby with me all the time. I would have a total panic attack if he left me even for a second.

The councillor maybe trained in bereavement but they will be able to pick up whether the MC was a trigger or the cause of how you are feeling.

Hope you feel more like yourself soon. It will take a few weeks for the citalopram to work.

Take care,

Serena x
12/11/2010 at 13:21
So sorry to hear you're feeling like this hunni, hopefully the counsellor will be able to help- even if she refers you to a different counsellor. Like the other girls have said we're all here for you x

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12/11/2010 at 13:25
awwwwwww, huge hugs!

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12/11/2010 at 15:16
I know you say you don't think you need the counseller but please go. They can be a huge help even if it isn't to do with bereavement.

You are allowed to be upset about your recent MC, even if you had 10 kids already. It's a horrible thing to go through. You've done the right thing by going to your doctor and the counseller may really help as you can discuss through everything and it might help to talk to someone about it all.
i'm also on citalopram. what dosage are you on? It has helped me loads with my PND and really got me through the dark times as has talking to people about it. Do you go to a baby group or have you contacted your health visitor? Just talking to other mums I have found really helped me. There are loads of support groups too and even if yours is not directly PND it might help to look them up and see if someone is in a similar situation or any other advice you can get.
and of course you've got us. if you need to chat or vent at any time about anything, even if it seems completely random or irrational just talk to us or email me I don't mind. it really helps to just get it off your chest.
I hope you feel better soon xxxx
12/11/2010 at 15:41
Sorry to hear you're having such a bad time of things - do take something from the fact that you've gone through this before and came through it - you're obviously a strong lady and at least this time you recognised the symptoms and have got help straight away x

Counselling might help you work out in your mind what makes you feel unhappy - although I did suffer from depression once and had some time off work - and I still don't know what triggered it, I just know I felt like hiding away and couldn't face the world, suddenly life and simple things became too hard if that makes sense (I think it will). It could be as "simple" as the fact that you've had major changes in your life and you feel over-whelmed, whether your new baby, previous MC's, changes to your relationship, demands on you and so on - don't under-estimate ever how hard one of these things can be let alone all of them together, if you've carried this in your mind for a long time then talking might help to really focus on how you feel.

I apologise now if you read this and feel I have simplified your situation, I promise you I don't mean to do that, situations like this are so complex and very real.

Remember we're all here to lend an ear. even if you just need to rant xxx

12/11/2010 at 17:05
Hi hun,

Im so sorry to read that you are feeling like this but like the other girls have said you have every right to feel low after what you have just been through.

I cant really offer any advice as I think all the ladies have pretty much covered it but I did want to say let the citalopram kick in and you should start to feel a little better. I took them pre-Ellis as I suffered from panic attacks. I was ok during my pregnancy but after Ellis turned 6 weeks I pleaded the Doctor to re-prescribe them. I too needed hubby or my mum with me at all times as I felt consant panic. Once they started working I turned back into my 'normal self'.

We are always hear to lend an ear xxx
12/11/2010 at 17:54
Hi huni So sorry to hear you are feeling like this.If you really don't feel it is what the dr says seek a second opinion. I have no experience of this personally but I know my MIL suffered from delayed PND- her daughter (my SIL) was 3 and she got so low she drove off into the night leaving her 3 children (who were all born 16 months apart)and husband with no intention of returning as she felt so alone and at breaking point as she constantly felt her children were going to just disappear. She had experienced several MC too and so everyone said it was all about the losses she had experienced eventually she got the help she needed by someone who actually listened to her. I hope you are feeling better soon. Lots of Love x

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12/11/2010 at 17:57
I just wanted to send you a huge hug, I'm sorry I have no advice for you but I do understand how hard a MMC is

Blue Gecko xxxx
12/11/2010 at 18:52
Thanks everyone, i know i can get through it and i am finding it easier to talk about it,
I'm on 10mg which from past experience i know won't do much i'm going back next week so i get they might up the dose then
12/11/2010 at 18:52
Thanks everyone, i know i can get through it and i am finding it easier to talk about it,
I'm on 10mg which from past experience i know won't do much i'm going back next week so i get they might up the dose then
12/11/2010 at 19:31
Hey lovely, before I had my gorgeous Lily I too suffered 2 mc, and like you couldn't settle the whole way through my pregnancy. Then After having Freddie I got diagnosed with pnd. Even though a lot of things happened at the end of my pregnancy with Freddie (which I won't go into on here) plus the fact I was unable to breastfeed, dvt scare alot of my 'troubles' seem to steam from my mc. I find talking about it helps (5 & 4 yrs ago they were now on the 18th Nov... yes thats right the same date 2 years running!), but that doesn't mean I forget or don't feel the pain. I didn't recieve any councilling at the time of the first one, which if I'm honest pushed me to the edge and I wish I would've, I also know that a lot of my pnd seems to stem from this.
Sorry this is only a quick reply but my hubby is in hospital so I'm grabbing 5 mins whilst I can, but I just wanted to say I can sympathise with you and if you ever need to chat message me on fb.x
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