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How to appeal/fight for NHS funding for your IVF

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J-Jenko
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Posted : Apr 27, 2009 1:14:08 PM
Subject : How to appeal/fight for NHS funding for your IVF

Just thought I would write down what I have done so far to launch an appeal for the IVF treatment we qualify for. Not for one minute do I think this is comprehensive or a guideline. I hoped it might save a little time for anyone else who is sadly in the same position. I will update the thread if we are successful. Stressful enough let alone having to fight the NHS.

What we should be entitled to:
PCT govern what GPs and hospitals do in each particular area, in terms of funding and prescribing etc. Head of the PCT is the Chief Executive.

The National Institute for Clinical Excellence (NICE) are a government body which make recommendations on what treatments/medications should be available and funded by the NHS.

Criteria for Scotland and Wales may be different as local NHS arrangements are vary.

NICE recommend For IVF if you have a BMI between 19-30 and are aged 23-39, some restrictions are made on smokers and couples with existing children you should be offered up to three cycles of stimulated IVF.
Some authorities also state if you have had private IVF treatment that may have preclude you from funding. Not sure if this is enforceable but good idea to check as it may alter your strategy

Link to show how infertility testing and treatment should proceed according to NICE: http://www.nice.org.uk/nicemedia/pdf/CG011algorithm.pdf

Each Primary Healthcare Trust (PCT) carry out these recommendations and make sure treatments etc are available.

What is currently happening (post code lottery)
Practically about t2/3rds of health authorities offer one cycle but some restrict the age range further than guidelines etc or do not offer IVF. The postcode lottery indeed!!!
Link to provision of IVF in 2007 most recent report for all PCTs
http://www.dh.gov.uk/en/Publicationsandstatistics/Publications/PublicationsPolicyAndGuidance/DH_085665


It is a good time to appeal as Dawn Primarolo has been pushing the idea that IVF provision should meet NICE guidelines country wide: Two newspaper articles below.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article5769066.ece
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article4583272.ece

Letter from Dawn Primarolo to PCTs
http://www.dh.gov.uk/en/Publicationsandstatistics/Lettersandcirculars/Dearcolleagueletters/DH_087134

Process of my appeal so far
If have been referred for IVF and meet the guidelines but have been denied treatment by my PCT. I do everything in writing so much less stressful than the phone and you have evidence of everything from then on’

If you are not sure who your PCT is http://www.pctdirectory.com/
Google your PCT website and look on the about us tab (or similar) should be a list of board members and contact details. Look for the chief executive


I have written a letter to the Chief Executive of my PCT setting out ….

why we qualify for IVF briefly not too much medical detail just that we have been referred due to documented medical conditions

the date we commenced testing for infertility

duration of infertility

stating the we meet NICE guidelines for BMI, age, non smoking & no existing children

Incorporating the phrase that the PCT operates a postcode lottery for treatment.

Asking that we will be provided with the IVF cycle which we qualify for and if the PCT cannot provide this would they provide a written reply containing their final decision in this matter. Adding that this will release you to take your complaint to the Healthcare Ombudsman and your MP.

Follow up the letter if you haven’t heard within 10 working days as they are required to acknowledge your letter and make a plan to answer your complaint.

It is the ombudsman that will handle the complaint from here on if your PCT deny you treatment but we are not yet at that stage.

Writing to you MP cannot harm your case http://findyourmp.parliament.uk/commons/l/
Mine will be passing on the information that I get to the Health Minister.

Other useful things:

The freedom of information act 2000, allows us to obtain data etc from the PCT.
I sent the following email to my PCT. They have to provide you the data within 20 working days or be in breech of the act.
Dear Sir / Madam

Under the auspices of the Freedom of Information act I would like to request information regarding NHS funded IVF treatment in xx PCT

Can you give the criteria for NHS funding in xx PCT which are/were applied in 2007, 2008 and 2009 particularly with respect to age. Can you also indicate whether these criteria are in line with NICE guidelines.

How many female patients were treated by NHS funded IVF within xx PCT in 2007, 2008 and 2009 and what was the age range of the female partner treated ie maximum and minimum age treated

How many female patients within xx PCT are currently (April 2009) awaiting treatment at xx Hospital for NHS funded IVF? How long is the waiting list ie if a patient was currently referred how long would it take to receive NHS funded treatment?

Is the waiting list for NHS funded IVF within xx PCT subject to the governments waiting list initiative?

I understand you will be able to provide this information within 20 working days of my request.

Kind regards etc

Useful to find out what is actually happening in your area
Type FOI or freedom of information act into the search section of your PCT/hospital web page to find contact details or email address for that department.


Advocacy service
These people are helping us with our appeal and our advocate is brilliant. It is a free service so I guess it may vary across the country but has been massively worthwhile for us
http://www.pohwer.net/

PALS

Are the patient liason service within each PCT and they should help you with complaints but so far ours haven’t answered my letters or emails. I guess the service varies

NIAC

Great information


GOOD LUCK post a thread if you think I can help. Or just want a moan.
JJ
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MrsHopeful
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Posted : Apr 27, 2009 3:50:00 PM

Grrrrr - BE ATE MY REPLY!!! THIS SEEMS TO BE HAPPENING MORE AND MORE OFTEN!!

Anyway, JJ, wanted to thank you for taking the time to post this. It could be very, very useful indeed.

We are not currently going through IVF but are pretty much resigned to the fact that we will need to.

Have been TTC for 2 years. DH's SA results were not great. Have been to clinic and have another appt in August assuming we are not pg and following further SA tests, blood tests and HSG.

I have BMI of under 30, no kids on either side, non smokers, aged 31 and haven't been private.

We do NOT currently qualify for IVF in our PCT!!! Ours (Bucks and I believe it also covers Oxon and one other local county....?), only offer IVF for those as above but that are between 35-39. They are currently in a consultation to reduce this to age 30-34 and are expected to agree to this by the end on May 09.

Even so, and assuming they change things, they will only offer ONE cycle of treatment.

I am, of course, hoping that I need not appeal but thank you so much again. It's so helpful.

Can I ask, have they told you why they will not offer you IVF??

xxxxxx

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Posted : Apr 27, 2009 3:54:30 PM

hey Mrs H
Your PCT should give you 3 between 23-39. So even the outcome of the consultation is not what should be happening.

I am pretty realistic on the 3 cycles but think I should get one!

We are declined because our PCT fund you if you are between 36-37 !! Big age range and this is to save money as the PCT is way over spent. I have seen the reports and have copies to wave if necessary

Fingers cross will update if and when we get anywhere
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Posted : Apr 30, 2009 11:55:51 AM

Hi J-jenko
I just wanted to say thanks for sharing all this info. xx

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Posted : May 02, 2009 5:12:08 PM

Jenko, thanks so much, this will certainly come in handy...

It is all such a hard slog, I know they rely on people being so bloody worn down that we wont fight their outrageous decsions..

I cant believe youve got a 1 year gap... how are they getting away with that?

My local authority (wessex, hampshire, southampton, iow etc) currently only offer to ages 36 - 39 but have told me i wont qualify until im 39 (why, thats 8 years away!!!) Also if i consider 8 years to be too long and im in a "rush" (yes thats what she said) then i could always pay privatley but, you guessed it, i would forfit any free go...

we have diagnoised infertility, both female and male factoer, and have been told ICSI is practical our only option. Grrrrhhhhh.

Out of interest, where is the best pct?

Gemma x

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J-Jenko

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Posted : May 03, 2009 5:28:08 PM

Hey Gem
The best area for funding is currently Essex etc they currently have directive for 3 full cycles and 3 frozen transfers for all!
In terms of efficacy I recommend a snoop on the following website which shows all clinics and enables you to compare sucess rates
I think it is INSANE that you should be made to wait until 39 when the potential efficacy of the procedure is declining. Madness!!!!!!!
Good luck
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Posted : May 03, 2009 5:28:37 PM

oops this website
http://guide.hfea.gov.uk/guide/
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Posted : May 04, 2009 8:16:04 AM

hi laides, we judt had our letter from the PCT yesturday they have denied us funding on the grounds that i am 21 not 23, they ssid they will fund us when im 23 but until then they can do nothing.
hubby and i are devestated but theres not another option for us, i know we are young but its all we want, we have achieved so much in the last 3 yrs (been ttc) we are married ,in oureo wn home, great jobs with great pensions and maternity rights.
so now just the baby.
we are heart broken, and to top it all off after reading the letter 3 of my friends announced they are pregnant!!!!

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Posted : May 04, 2009 9:29:26 AM

Oh Mrs E thats really tough. Am guessing you have had all the infertility assessments and everything. For once the PCT are following guidelines you can try to appeal if you can bear the process?
The one good thing is that when you do get a cycle you will have a brilliant chance because of your age.
Crossing fingers that you might get a miracle BFP in th mean time
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