i went to see her to talk about the birth ,after having an emergancy section last time + being under general an. i realy wanted an elective one this time! dont want to have to go through that again after alrady going thru 42 hours of labour !
anyway

i went to see her this morning n she said that they wont let me have one because i went into labour natually last time!
so i explained y i wanted one due to nearly loosing my son last time and worried t could happen again n all i want is for my baby to be delivered safely.(been getting realy paniky about it all) then she told me to go home n think about my decision n y i should change my mind for a vbac. she was so horrible could of slapped her!

got to go bak at 36 weeks to talk again but im determine to have one nt jus because i cant b arsed pushing bt because last time realy scared me!!

has nyone else had trouble with there consultant nt listening to wt u wer trying to say?
sorry 4 going on jus realy annoyed. xx

Hey hun, I'm 8 weeks with my 1st so have no advice to give but I just wanted to say that if you feel strongly about this then stand your ground. It's your baby and you who has to give birth. Did the consultant say why she thought you shouldn't go for an elective or just railroad you? Maybe ask to speak to someone else about it?

Good luck anyway hun, hope you get it sorted.x

What a horrible cow. You are well within your rights to have your care transferred to a different consultant so next time you have an appointment with your midwife ask her to do this for you, and explain why, because of this womens attitude. Dont let her bully you, stand your ground, they cannot make you have a natural birth, just keep quoting the fear of the life threatening risk of scar rupture if you try vbac at them and they will soon turn heel if they realise you will hold them personally (and legally) responsible if this happens to you. They have no right to bully you. Overpaid cheeky f*ck*r!!!!!

i had the same thing that my consultant wanted me to try for a vbac as elective c section last time cos lo was breech.
As this ones not breech initially she was very reluctant and said i had to wait til 36 week scan. then had 32 weeks scan and baby was big, i have diabetes and spd and she finally gave in.
Refer her to NICE guidelines which say you can ask for a repeat caesarean due to scar rupture and that you feel risk even if small is not one for you or baby safety is acceptable. |Ask to move to another consultant and if no luck there you can appeal to head of midwifery/obstetrics.
be persistent it seemed to work for me i asked from 24 weeks to 32 weeks before she even considered it.
Filo x

What a miserable cow! I agree with Filobabe and the others.

I too had an emergency c sect under GA with my first daughter 3 1/2 years ago. I was absolutely terrified of the same things happening again so requested an elective c sect for the delivery of my second daughter in March of this year. My Consultant clearly wanted me to try for a VBAC and although i considered it i opted for the elective section which was amazing. Don't let her bully you into doing something you don't want to. To her you're just another pregnant lady and she probably delivers thousands of babies every year. You've already missed the birth of your first child. Don't let her risk you missing the birth of the next one. Get arsy with her if you have to. That will all be forgotten in no time but if you miss the birth of your second child because you didn't stand up to her you'll kick yourself for the rest of your life.

Keeping everything crossed for you and hoping that you get the delivery you want. Keep us posted.

Claire xx

I am dreading my next appointment with my consultant as i have also been told that i should have a vbac after i had an emergancy cs with my son 3 yrs ago. I want to have a planned cs as i have a good pgs but crap labours and have had 2 ventouse deliveries and 1 cs and i have only managed 1 normal delivery. Im hoping my consultant will catch chicken pox before my next appointment and i get to see someone else xxx

Just remember hon, its your body,your baby so therefor your choice as you have had a section already you are fully entitled to another one and they legally CANNOT prevent you from having one.
The ONLY reason they try to discourage women fro having them for a second+ time is PURELY financial!
At the end of the day stand your ground and don't let them bully you.

Goodluck.xxx

I just think its so sad that they are trying to bully you. I had an emergency section under general in feb 06 and opted (through personal choice) for a vbac with my youngest in august 07. It was in some ways the worst decision i ever made. It was horrible. It was quick but i ended up with a third degree tear, countless stitches, and now over a year on i still have trouble controlling going to the toilet etc and im only 22. They are always so keen to warn of the risks of c sections but nobody warns you that natural births can be dangerous and they can damage you for the rest of your life. I have no long term effects from my section however. It is because it saves them work that they push vbac, god forbid someone on a £90k salary gets their hands dirty. They really shouldnt be allowed to try and persuade you against your wishes, it really is so unfair when they have no idea what it is like to go through an emergency section and fear genuinley for your baby's life then to be told that they want you to risk going through it all again. The risk of scar rupture is low but can lead to death in both mother and baby, just tell them this is the reason you want a section, they will not push you as they know if they do and it happens to you then you can sue x

i have a feeling that i could make myself somewhat unpopular here, but i feel i need to put a slightly different slant on the threads.....!!

first of all, Marie08, i sympathise totally with your problems, and i agree that if you dont want to have a VBAC then you should stand your ground. dont let her make you feel bullied, and you do need to stand your ground on your choice. if your Consultant wont agree, then change Consultants - they have to accept your decision in doing this without a problem. you can ask your midwife to come in with you and help in you voicing your opinion if you feel you need extra help. if you put over why you think it is better for you to have a c/s than VBAC, and ask why she thinks it better to have a vbac than c/s FOR YOU, then you could find that she accepts your decision.

however, what you also need to consider is that you just may get the Consultants back up if you go in all guns blazing. they CAN refuse to do an elective c/s, altho rare, as most will accept it is ok with a previous c/s, and it is what you want. NICE are guidelines only, and not a policy that has to adhered to, so if the Consultant feels that it is best for you, then they can refuse! more than likely your Trust wont have a policy, as it is usually decided on an individual basis. if you can let her know how traumatised you were last time, then she should bend. i'm yet to meet a dr who hasnt done it in the end.

a VBAC is recommended more so than a second c/s, as it is deemed to be better for both mum and baby in the long run, not for cost, altho' that will come into it. obviously it doesnt always go according to plan - an emergency c/s can happen again, or like EmmaLou, 3rd degree tears / perineal trauma. C/S babies have a higher incidence of going to SCBU / NICU than a normal delivery(usually due to respiratory distress), and there are more risks for mum too with a c/s than vaginal delivery - higher risk of bleeding, blood clots, damage to the bowel / bladder etc. it is for these reasons why Dr's push more for a VBAC, as these risks are higher than in comparison to a ruptured uterus.

i'm not for one minute defending or promoting VBAC's - i've had 3 c/s, only my first was an emergency - but just trying to show why your consultant probably is how she is. i personally think if you want an elective c/s then you should have one, if you want a VBAC, you should have one etc, and you should be supported in your decision either way. what is right for one person isnt for another, and really, your doc should know that.

hopefully your next appointment will go far better, and you'll have your c/s soon

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Oh ladies, i'm so worried now- due to see my consultant at the beginning of dec and have been dreading he will say NO!!! I had emergency c section with my son 2 yrs ago, after a very slow labour and failed vontuse and forceps he was finally born by emergency c section!! I was told i had so much trouble as he was a big baby for my size 8lb 9oz, with head circumference in 91st percentile!!!! But this time my baby has 2 vessel cord- which bascially means she may not grow as should and may be small!! So have growth scan at 28wks. The size was going to be my main argument but may not be able to use that any more. And dont know how he'll take too am s**t scared after a horrendous labour last time, and being scared my son wouldnt even make it, cos his heart rate was all over the place!!
Has anyone has any nice experiences with consultants??

22+6

tanroe, try not to worry - most consultants are very nice (though admittedly, not all), and will listen to your fears / decisions.

they have to do their job of how they recommend ways of delivering, because it is just that - their job! they will advise some to have VBAC's, some to have elective c/s etc, because their knowledge is based on both nresearch and their experience, and they are recommending what they feel is best for you.

you are allowed to disagree - they are not God (tho' some think they are!!!), so just make sure they know what your preference is!

Ollier i've read in some of your other posts that you have cared for vbac mums whose old scars have ruptured. I know that if it is picked up early and dealt with effectively then major problems can be avoided. However i just wondered that if a woman does initially request and elective section but is pushed into a vbac by the docs, and does suffer scar rupture, then does this make the docs liable? It seems that many seem to dismiss the risk of scar rupture as it is small xxx

Mine were actually ok, I saw a female registrar at my first appt and although i wanted a vbac initially, all her talk of iv cannulas and monitors etc changed my mind and i insisted she booked me in for a section, after a bit of mumbling (she was german) and whinging she just penciled me down for a section. I had another appt a month or 2 later but insisted on seeing the actual consultant this time and he was great, he was also welsh ( i am by no means racist) so spoke in a way i understood which i always find a great help in these situations, theres nothing i hate more than a foreigner mumbling in broken english at me. At the end of my appt with him i changed my mind back to a vbac, although i made it clear i wasnt having an iv cannula in for labour although i agreed to be monitored, he had a bit of a moan but i just stood my ground and there wasnt much else he could do. But he booked me in for a section if i went overdue which is what i wanted, i had no intention of being induced. So all in all they were fairly supportive of my choices which is how they should be, it seems unfair as if you were loaded and went to a private hospital like Portland waving wads of cash or plastic at them, theyd have you on the table before you could open your mouth. So money is obviously an issue, as no doubt some of these nhs consultants who push vbac, also practise privately and carry out sections on a regilar basis on those who really are 'too posh to push', so to me it seems like a case of double standards x

thanx 4 all ur support ladies!

im standing my ground n after speaking to my midwife on friday i feel alot better,she has arranged it so she will b there wiv me at 36 weeks to see them again!!! how lovely!!

thanx again.

marie

xxx

hi marie - glad you feeling better about it, and i hope it goes your way next week!!

emmalou - yes, depending on the circumstances, hospitals can be liable for ruptured uteruses!! if negligence in any way can be proven.......