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mybooboosandme
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Posted : Oct 06, 2008 12:57:43 PM
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Sorry ladies this is a really unusual attitude for me but I find myself in a bit of a dilemma!!
in a nutshell I had my eggs collected last friday (16 of them) and was told on Saturday that 10 had made it through the night, I am going to the blastocyst stage if all goes well and am going for this on Wednesday. throughout my treatment I have asked for a specific DR to carry out my E/T as he has overseen my last three attempts and I managed to get pregnant on the only E/T that he ever did for me(although I had a silent miscarriage) He is the all singing all dancing God of fertility, apparantly!!anyway my embrologist has just phoned me and said that this particular Dr that I want can only do the E/T first thing Wednesday morning which to me isn't a problem, however she then went on to say that they may not be able to tell the strongest embryo's at that point as blastocyst is not due to occur till after lunchtime, so my choices are (1) go with the Doc and take the chance that the better ones go back and keep my fingers crossed that I get a BFP like last time,or, (2) wait till after lunch to get a better insight into the Blastocyst embryos and have a newly trained nurse will do the E/T.
I am so scared that i'll make the wrong choice and I know that whatever choice I make if it doesn't work i'll be blaming myself for not taking the other choice.
throughout this cycle I have clung to the hope that it will work because this Dr was going to do my E/T and now I feel that this hope has been tarnished by the fact that I have to take what in my book is a big risk in order to get a BFP.
please can you give me your thoughts on the matter Confused

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MrsLizzieK
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Posted : Oct 06, 2008 2:28:44 PM
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Hi!
After reading about the dilemma and then re-reading... I noticed you said that they MAY not be able to tell which embryos are the strongest, If they have already gone a couple of days longer than the usual time for transfer (but not quite as long as blastocyst) then surely they still have a much better chance as they will have survived this long anyway?? Forgive me if I am wrong here as I probably don't know enough about blastocyst as I have not got to that point yet!!
I think if it was me I would need to weigh up:
How much stress would it cause me to go ahead with another DR when the embryos had been identified as blastocyst and having the absolute certainty that these embryos had been identified as being stronger?
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Taking the (hopefully very large) chance that the embryos had already benefitted from the extra time allowed to develop and then hope that the fact I would feel calmer and more re-assured with the expert doc will = success...
If you honestly feel that the Dr you really want is much more skilled at the procedure and think you would feel more positive having him carry it out then I would call the clinic back and ask what their recommendation would be and how much of a difference they think those extra hours will make...
I think if it was me I would wait for the blastocyst stage and go ahead with another DR - this is only because I would rather think afterwards that at least I had gone ahead with the strongest embryos for definite and I had previously thought the Egg transfer was a simple procedure (but also that any doctor performing it would be highly skilled at it!).
I feel a little unable to help you as I haven't been through it myself yet but have tried to weigh things up with the little knowledge I have . I think the key will be to talk it through, weigh up the odds, and once you have made a decision - go ahead with the positive thoughts and the experiences you have gained from the past cycles in mind to alleviate any stress!
Wishing you the very best of Luck xxx
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Posted : Oct 06, 2008 2:58:13 PM
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Hi Lizzie,

thanks for your thoughts on this, my main concern is that if I don't have this particular Dr carry out the E/T i will have a nurse do it in the afternoon and not another Dr, please don't get me wrong I'm not saying that she is not skilled to do it but the embryologist told me today that she has only just been trained by another Dr at the clinic so has not even attended a course. I know that sounds terrible on my part and I really don't mean to be but these are my embryo's that we are talking about and I feel like I have gone through so much to get to this stage. on the plus side I spoke to my embryologist again and she said that it just means that they will hopefully continue to split & divide in the womb as opposed to in a lab, she also said that they could wait to freeze the rest until day 6/7 so that I would have a better chance of freezing a blastocyst.

I have now had a long chat with hubby and we have decided to take the chance and go for the early transfer with the Dr. we both feel that the stress of not being comfortable with the person doing the transfer could hinder our success, My embryologist also agrees with this theory and told me that you get a better success rate with patients who are 100% happy with the decisions that have been taken. I am now under strict instructions from hubby to relax and stop getting myself worked up so that is now what I intend to do........ Decision made.................Panic over Smile

Thank you

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Posted : Oct 06, 2008 5:16:55 PM
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I've been thinking about you today, hoping you'd be able to go for blastocyst.

I know my input is irrelevant as you've already decided what to do, but I agree, not sure I'd want anyone inexperienced in charge of my egg transfer. Having said that, I'd not met the chap who did ours before the big day, but he wasn't straight out of school! The embryos will have been given a fighting chance just by surviving until Wednesday, another couple of hours surely wouldn't make a huge difference. Your comfort with the situation is vital.

Good luck for Wednesday morning, will be thinking of you ...

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MrsLizzieK
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Posted : Oct 06, 2008 7:23:26 PM
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Glad that you have decided!!!
It definitely makes sense to forsake a few measley hours for the Doc rather than have a nurse who is only just trained do it!! ( I now see why you were concerened... I thought it was that it was another doctor who would do it when i replied earlier!)
Lots of Luck xx

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Posted : Oct 06, 2008 9:24:21 PM
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wish you all the luck in the world xx

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Posted : Oct 07, 2008 11:52:04 AM
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Hi Ladies,

thanks for the replies, I'm going at 7.30 tomorrow morning (getting quite excited now) last news that I had yesterday 8 of my embryos had made it but the clinic told me to expect to have lost more before I go tomorrow i'd like to be able to freeze a couple at least so keeping everything crossed (well not everything)LOL!

will keep you all informed xx Smile

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Posted : Oct 09, 2008 10:19:59 AM
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Read your other post, so glad it went well yesterday. Sending lots of sticky dust, and really hope both yours stay put.

Rest up and take very good care of yourself. I did just about nothing for the first 3 days.

Are you on the progesterone pesseries?

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Posted : Oct 09, 2008 3:06:09 PM
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Hi Mrs Amanda,

i'm actually on the Gestone injections, I did these on the last cycle that I got pregnant on, the needle is quite thick and nasty so it does hurt a bit but it's worth it, I couldn't get on with the cyclogest pessaries at all.

I'm more than taking it easy at the mo, moving between the bed, settee & computer plus i've got books coming out of my ears, I was bored last time that I did this but so glad that I did it when I got my last BFP, hubby has taken time off work to pamper to my every need, bless him. Smile

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Posted : Oct 09, 2008 4:02:10 PM
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What a good husband! Mine managed to 'work from home' for a few days, but he very quickly tired of fetching & carrying for me :-)

Keeping everything crossed for you until test day ....

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