Me and my OH work. He works 38 hours and I work 12 and a half. We have 2 children aged 3 and 6 months. We get £104 a week tax credits as we are on low wage (my partners working on that). We pay all our bills, buy food and generally live on this and our wages. We do have money left over but that mainly goes on birthday prezzys and other things. We manage but in general we'd be better off if we didn't work!!!Its disgusting!!!

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havent they tried that already? Something about wanting it renamed to the 'festive season' and no mention of xmas... ? Cant remember where i saw/read/heard it....

Were not allowed to celebrate St georges day either, or not supposed to.....One local club round here got the english flag painted on all his windows, and has been shut down until its taken off. Also been fined for every day he doesnt so doubly losing out! All because he's proud he's english and shows the flag.

I am a stay at home mum but my partner works around 60 hours a week jsut so we can afford to live.
When i fell pregnant last year i was training to be a nurse and had worked for the best part of 10 years before that always paying my NI and tax. I had to be signed off nursing as was really poorly. now because i was a student i wasnt entilted to sick pay. I did get incapacity benefit but i had to push for it. i went from getting £500 a month to £120. How we survived on jsut this and my partners wage (he had a lower paid job back then) i dont know. Now i do claim working and child tax credits and why not?! if other people can get them then why shouldnt i. admitedly it isnt alot but surely its better in my pocket than in the governments.

My sis found herself out of work as she also was training to be a nurse but left as couldnt manage it anymore. now she tried and tried to find a job but couldnt. she claimed jobseekers for around 6 months and she actually dreaded going in the job centre as there were people their getting their giro then going over the road getting loads of alcohol then hangning around getting drunk. i know everyone isnt the same and i do agree that if u deserve it then u should get it but why do they let people get away with it who shouldnt.
my sis got married so thats why she stopped claiming it as she wasnt entilted.

i cant understand why they dont do more checks as when we filled out our tax forms they virtually were asking for our inside leg measurement!!! if they did then the stigma attached to benefits might change.

now even tho we get tax credits we still dont really have enough to live and i am starting to look for a job which i really dont want to as LO is only 7 months old. but once u have paid rent, council tax (which is huge), water, electric...etc etc there jsut isnt anything left.

re;joanne&broode,tell which questions and i will answer them??? and its prettygirl not partygirl??

not everyone wants to be on benifits i work from the age of 16 till the age of 23 i was going to go back to work when my daughter was old enough then my partner had a fall and really did his back in i would love to go back to work but at the moment i am near the end of my second pregnancy so no one will employ me and my partner can not look after our daughter because of his backwe can not afford for anyone to look after our daughter either

PMSL prettygirl cut the ''e'' off the end you'll get the name right then :)

I take it that it was the latter then???
It's a debate, I'm not going to tell you the questions I have already asked go look them up.
The point of having a debate is that you answer the questions posed at you in a way that defends your response and point as to ''back it up'' ;)

I just had to poke my nose in on this!i think all to often ppl judge and pigeonhole ppl who claim benefits,i admit i have been guilty of this myself in the past..i used to look down on young girls who seemingly got pregnant again and again,never worked,and got a house paid for,but this is a sterotype and not everyone who claims benefits fits this description!Im a single mum,spilt with my partner for good when lo was 1mth...i fully intenended to return to work but they wanted me to do weekends,bank hols,over Xmas(i worked in a Hotel)and i just thought no way,not now i have a lo so i left...i now claim benefits,which is something i never wanted to do or foresaw myself doing!!!Ive worked from leaving school,never claimed anything before(im 30 now)so it annoys me when ppl say that most ppl claiming benefits are lazy ect...I cant work fulltime as i have no one to look after my son and to put him into a nursrey would cost me far to much,and tbh i want to bring my child up not go to work so i can pay someone else to do it!what with my mortgage repayments im struggling on benefits to make ends meet...it isnt bloody easy and not everything is handed to you on a plate!

Joanne u make me laugh so much! I'm a single mum with 2 young boys, i work 16hrs a week and my boys go to nursery. I receive no maintenance from their dad so i get working tax credits & child tax credits. I do pay some rent and council tax but i dont have to pay the full amount. I work because i feel its good for the boys & i to have a break from each other & also because my ex left me with a load of debts in my name (more fool me) My oldest will start school in sept & i've been told i dont qualify for...

Oh and the babies dad...?he gets it easy claiming benefits and paying £5 a wk in csa payments to his child!THAT is lazy and gives ppl on benefits a bad name!

Free school meals or uniform grants or anything but my ex's sis who has never had a job & is now trying for another baby coz her lo start school in sept too & she has admitted she doesnt want to work and she's getting school dinners & clothing grant & even travel expenses coz she has to get a bus to the school! She has a partner but he's never worked either. That really annoys me! Also, even though i have a low income, when my youngest was born he didnt get the £500 ctf because i get working tax credits!

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Hi Gemma did you get your laptop sorted? I've sent you a message on FB hun x

There needs to be some kind of benefits system in place for those who TRULY need help. But as has been said already, there will always be those who dont need to claim who will take advantage of an easy system to defraud.

I personally know of a single mum who, once her child was nearing the end of high school, was complaining bitterly that she was being 'harassed' to find a job. Next thing you know, she is pg again. No bloke on the scene, but a lo on the way to guarantee that she can carry on receiving her benefits, rent paid on her 3 bed council house,and her council tax paid for a good few years to come.

She is an example of the type who pi$$ every tax-payer off!!

re;joanne&brood "e" RAOFLMAO this is so funny! as far as i can see ive answered the questions and said my peace im pleased ive got my point of veiw across!!

partygirl,

*rolls eyes*

I know now as did originally it was the latter you were unable to answer the questions. And you know what that's ok to admit defeat especially in a debate ;)

I have nothing at all against people on benifits i think if you have to claim them to help your circumstances then thats fine....however i do have to agree with prettygirl on this one there are just to many people abusing the system that its becoming a joke it is partly the goverments fault but we all have a choice in life to make our own life better! i personaly wouldnt want to be in the catagory of being someone that claims benifit "quote"...... just to abuse the system it makes me feel proud of the fact that i can work and look after my children on my own!

thanks dons1 ! i dont have to justify myself.xx

Who said you HAD to justify yourself?
You started the debate.........

prettygirl I think its terrible that you have called alot of honest people who would love to work but have reasons why they can't lazy c****. How would you like it if I started throwing insults at you, even though I don't know you?Do you have a job?

if you had read my origanal posts you would have seen that i didnt call "honest people" lazy c****!!!!! at all! i did infact say that..."im not saying its all people that claim benifits just the ones that rub it in your face"... nothing to do with honest people,like the girl who thought it was great she had,had a baby just to claim benifits! i have never had a problem with people getting what benifits they deserve just the ones that dont deserve to claim coz they would rather abuse the system.....and no i dont work i am a sahm my oh works to look after us which is the way he wants it but i worked right up untill i had the lo....why????