av yas all dun a bit ov work av yas ya moanin little sh**s u all make me angry who say fings like tha as if ur the queen cuz u work well kiss my ass bcuz at the end ov the day its ar lives n we will do wot we want for them ok so now shut up n get on wit ya sad little lives

well said sam, tbh if i didnt have my ctc every week and my cb id b up sh!t street as i cant pay the council 900 quid a year plus pay the rent all the utility bills stuff for faith etc on my partners student loan its just impossible ya no

cant understand a bloody word of that post samantha89.....! raofl !

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I know what you mean Charlotte&Faith and if some people could take their big fat heads out of their ars£s then they would understand too! Also well said Sam!!! Me thinks prettygirl needs to be more educated to understand this!! The dumb bit**

lly angry wit it tho cuz ppl think they can make ppl feel really small becuz of things they do well no one is perfect n i dnt think they know that yet !!!! wake up n realise that this is the real world not sum fantasy world !!!!!

think everyone needs to calm down! samantha89 you have just said some awfull things too, you are discriminating against people who work then??? rite i will get on with my sad little life now..... lol

dons i think why sam is so annoyed is that ppl said on here they want their kids to be proud of them and she feels its out of order to say that because the way it comes across is that ppl on the dole's kids will not be proud of them, it cuts deep ya no, i think all children no matter if their parents work all week or are at home all the time will be proud of them, and tbh i think i bond alot better with my child as I am home with her and I never miss a moment of her growing up

yes i can see how it may of looked but wasnt really meant in that way, i cant believe what some people have put on here! and the last few posts are really horrible you have all said some really nasty things!

yeah but to be fair we are all really offended as it is a soft subject ya no, she should have seen the upset and annoyance this post would have caused, it puts the post creator in a bad light and paints a very poor picture of her, it also shows us she is very shallow well in my opinion anyway

Well prettygirl is a sahm and is discriminating against other sahm just because they are on benefits and she isn't! Its disgusting! So dons1, is my son not going to be proud of me?

well its only a debate and there will allways be posts like this...we are all mums but some people have stronger opinions than others! i think this debate should be well and truely over now if its causing upset and if people do want to carry it on then more fool them!

I think we are all getting abit heated now,but then this was bound to happen...i too dont like the idea that some ppl seem to have about if you dont go out to work your setting a bad example to your child,the best parent is a parent who puts their child first,shows them love and teaches them the right morals and values in life NOT one who slaves away for god knows how many hours and hardly gets to spend any proper time with their child,though im NOT knocking that and do admire those that do!I have tried working the hours i could get that were suitable ect and found i was worse off with childcare costs and my other benefits were cut because i worked afew hours extra...its a crazy system!im a single mum and luckily i have a great mum who helps me out hugely,i own my own house and get no help with the mortgage which isnt cheap and im bloody struggling to make ends meet for me and my child...with no help from the babies dad i might add!!!!!!!this is despite being on benefits,which as i said earlier im better off staying on them!i didnt make the rules and its ppl like me and many many others in similar situations that need MORE help if you ask me!i dont plan to be on benefits and not working forever and maybe if i had another choice i would go to work also but i dont right now!i just hate being shooved into this horrible sterotype!BUT all that ranting aside i do think Prettygirl was only trying to make a point that SOME ppl DO abuse it and NEVER intend to work and i know of a few!!!!!!!!!!hope everyone is well and im finding it really intresting if not uncomfortable sometimes reading all these posts!lol x

More fool the person who started it more like!

well said sarahlou78....CASE CLOSED!

ive been a single mum on benefits and struggled and hated it and ive worked and found out how hard it is to earn enough to cover rent, council tax, minders, etc. i have had apartner for the past 6yrs and we struggle again with the same bills. school dinners are easy if you have 1 child but pay yhem for 2 or more, then milk which is 10pounds each child per term. then rent, council tax and water rates yet alone other bills. it annoys me that we arent on benefits but my partner who works and gets paid last day of every month gets constantly moaned at causeevery bill gets paid whan he does. leicester city council expect rent and council tax amonth in advance. who can manage that. try to pay weekly and they want you to go to court should you miss their payment day. its a joke. ive seen it from all sides but disagree on people who stay at home on benefits and deliberately have kids for this reason. they must feel very trapped doing this. young people are still naive to have kids for houses, extra bebefiys etc as you dont get alot. no wonder young mums get into debt and neglect their kids. theyve had them for the wrong reasons. look at the girl who left her 2yr old in a kitchen and went out leaving him in appalling conditions for days. theres too many spongers on benefits and the socal clamp down on the wrong people. my ex didnt work and claimed incapacity for alcohism and got the benefit just handede to him. he worked on the side despite me reporting him. then he signs off when hes caught and csa still dont get maintenance. my nice antisocial neighbours claim benefits, work on the side and never get caught too. its a joke but hey they interview you yearly now on income suupport knowing you probably cannot work with children athome. and yes for genuine mums it is afulltime job.

I think everyone is getting carried away prettygirl has a right to her opinion aswell. She may not be very tactful in the way she has put it but it's her opinion not everyone has to agree.

And just so you know she is also here for support. I have given her advice and nobody has the right to tell anyone to leave or go back to where they came from.

She has started the debete and yes she hasn't explained her opinion properly or answered questions put to her but she doesn't deserve the personal abuse from people on here.

A debate is about 'debating' you put your opinions across sometimes with facts sometimes not. But you don't get personal or let it get to you. IMO if you can't debate and you let someone's opinion get to you then don't get involved because that isn't what debating is all about.

There is no need for the personal attack on prettygirl as I have just read. That is truly disgusting especially as most of you are saying how this is suppose to be a support forum.

I am now reporting this thread to the moderators.

Well said Joanne, everyone is entitled to their opinions but this has gone WAY too far, there is absolutely no excuse for personal attacks.

I take it personal though when someone insults the way I live. I was deeply offended and hurt by what she said, I admit and am sorry for saying the personal insult, but everything else is my opinion too, which aren't I entitled to?

I just don't believe there is any need at all under no circumstances for ppl to lower themselves into personal attacks it's just wrong have the upperhand and rise above it.

And yes everyone should have their opinions but people shouldn't personally attack someone it's not nice and is unjust, we are ment to be adults here.

And yes I know it's hard but there is a difference in debating and personally attacking someone which has happened here as I am sure we can all see that.

We all see prettygirl isn't as tactful as some but she is still here for SUPPORT just like everyone.

I have already reported this thread lets hope the moderator see's that soon x