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You didn't say except honest people who have no choice but to claim benefits, you put all people in 1 group judging everyone by the actions of one person, that is called stereotyping, which, only ignorant people would do. Next time don't do that, it just makes you look stupid!

Oh fantastic, I go on holiday for a week and come back to a heated debate, dont you just love it and lets face it the benefit debate will always get peoples backs up. I have 4 children and up untill Isaac was born 14 months ago I have always worked because i was lucky enough to be able to afford the child care, however now having 2 children below school age I cannot afford the child care so I am a sahm, My hubby works but we do claim the child tax credit and why shouldnt we, We have both worked and have both paid into the system and we are entitled to it.

When Isaac is at school I do intend to go back to work but do I feel guilty about claiming what I am entitled to ??? No I do not, I do agree that people who abuse the system are bad and maybe the government should do something about them, but would I make my hubby work all the hours god sends so I didnt have to claim the child tax credit? No I wouldnt, why should he work stupid hours and miss out on all the magical moments of his family growing up.

This is a really touchy subject but heres my bit, I am in a rship but my partner is a full time student at the age of 29 so he gets his student loan, I am not entitled to benefits because of this, however in the past we have claimed and for a very good reason, ppl who sign on to benefits do it so help themselves survive simple as, its not to intentionally leech off others etc

And i dont believe anyone really rubs benefits in peoples faces, It makes no sense?

But tbh if my partner was not at uni I would be claiming as I am a full time mum, the childcare is real expensive and with all the bills we just could not afford it, I think a few of the things on here are well out of order, who's business is it if a young girl is on the dole claiming benefits and buying nice things for her baby? ITS HERS

I really dont think girls in that position should be judged there could be any reason for it, I think branding women like that is unjust, uncalled for and tbh quite pathetic

If i were you I would just concentrate on your own income and stop worrying about where everyone else gets there money

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Well said Charlotte&Faith I totally agree with you and am in exactly the same position. You really couldn't have said it better hun!

not a problem chick i really cant stand ppl being branded due to them claiming benefits, if it were not for benefits alot of families would be in a lot of trouble. how olds ur lil one claire?

im on mat leave hubby works and we get help with tax credits were both better off for working than being on the dole personally i couldnt live on 120 quid a fortnight i want my children to be proud of us

i think ur children will be proud of you no matter what you do, its your own choice whether to work or not

and tbh i dnt think anyone shud giv a crap what other ppl think of them after all everyone needs to survive somehow

Exactly! That system is there to help people, what will they do if they ever need help and people start complaining and judging them? I think it would be a different story then, definatly. Anyways my lo is 20 weeks old, how old is yours? What does your partner study? Mine is studying health and social care. Theres another point these people who are complaining, when my patner is helping take care of them or one of their loved ones in hospital, they won't be complaining then would they, my partner has to claim benefits whilst he is studying as there is no time for a job as he does voluntary work in a hospital as well. He is studying to get a good career and job so he doesn't have to claim. I will be returning to college also in September to get a good career, which, probably is more than what some people are doing! I know am ranting and raving but this post has really upset me!

my lo is 8 months old and it has been a struggle but i would not change it for the world, my partner does script writing he is amazin at it, im so proud of him for gettin out there and doin something he will geta good job from :)

same as me gale...i would like my children to be proud of me and to set a good example is to show how hard you work,i couldnt live of the dole either its just not enough to keep us going....but its just a personal choice!

So your trying to say that if some1 was married then husband left them and she had to go on2 benifits as working in a shop wouldnt cover the child care, that her children wouldnt be proud of her!
What a terrible thing to say. Its been proven by government studies that children who are looked after by their parents do better in life generally school relationships jobs etc.

The hardest job you can possibly have is being a single parent and yes there are some people who claim money and spend it on themselves not their children but this does not give any body a right to slag off all people on benefits or say that they are a bad parent for doin so!
This has made me so mad!!!!!!

*roll eyes*

It has made me very angry. So, gayle mcfedries and dons1, will my child not be proud of me and my partner for studying hard in order to get good careers to look after him? Of course he will! So your chatting a load of sh** there! We're setting a very good example! Why are you rolling your eyes prettygirl?

Why the roll of the eyes, I think that most people on here agree that the help you can get when you are a sahm is invaluable, it is not a massive amount of money but it helps, like I said in my previous post it is not financially viable for me to go back to work with 2 children under school age and no way would i expect my husband to work any more hours than he does, he works full time and he does extra hours when he is needed at work.

The children are his too and why should he miss out on any of the precious times, I do not consider myself to be a scrounger, I am not on the dole I merely claim the child tax credits that we are entitled to and without them we would probably not be able to survive very well, we do not scrounge and tbh most of the tax credits and child benefit we recieve get saved up for our family holidays the rest goes on shoes, clothes and other things for the children.

why is the debate still going on?

prettygirl stop rolling your eyes and go back to where you came from! honestly all your doing is trying to create an argument on a forum where all us mums come for support!! it's disgusting!
and where have all these newbies come from to support you??

NOBODY SHOULD BE LOOKED DOWN ON FOR CLAIMING BENEFIT... END OF!!

(mini rant from me, LOL)

look for some reason you have all perceived this in the wrong way! i to am a sahm who gets tax credits and of course child benifit but i dont claim the dole my post in the first place was about people who claim and abuse the system so they can get a free house and ct etc! nothing to do with tc or cb!!! and im rolling my eyes coz you all just dont seem to get it *roll eyes* again!

get over urself woman, some people have to claim the dole so go and crawl back in ur hole ur a sh!t stirrer by the looks and sounds of it either that or ur just a stuck up cow who looks down her nose at families less fortunate than you, alot of families have to claim it and its none of your business so do us a favour and give your mouth a rest

actually im made up for people who work n woteva but im made up also for people on benefits who are actually doing sumfink to get a job well dun !!! but i understand ur point if people r on benfits an are not doing nefink to get a job or study to get a job but want u want us to do dnt get ne help wit muny to look after are babies do u really want us to make them starve ay !!!!!! are you really that THICK AY!!!!!!!!!! think all ur brains av fizzled out after avin a baby n i think ur opinions are out ov order . an do ya no wa at least ppl who are on benefits see there kids growin up an can play wit them n stuff instead of shuvvin em off whilst u go to work cum ome n moan on this abar benefits u sad bast**** and as for that matter WHAT GIVES U THE RIGHT TO INTIMIDATE PPL ON BENEFITS WHEN U DNT NO NE PROBLEMS THEY MITE HAVE AND OTHER STUFF DO U MOAN ABAR PPL WHO ARE ON DISABILITY ALLOWANCE AN ARE IN WHEEL CHAIRS WHO THINK THEY DNT HAV TO WORK CUZ THEY R IN A WHEEL CHAIR NO U F***IN DNT DO YA

well said charlotte and faith. and pretty girl I think people do get it we have all agreed that people who milk the system are wrong maybe it is you who isnt getting it. Bringing up a baby is a struggle however you do it and at the end of the day the vast majority of parents out there are doing the best for their children and the people who come on here want to chat and have a bit of support not get made to feel like a piece of crap for claiming a few measley pounds because for whatever reason they cannot work at the moment!

Exactly!!!!!!!