Afternoon ladies and sorry I have been slightly AWOL of late! Just wanted to update you all on my clomid story so far! I'm on day 4 of taking it so it's the last one tomorrow. DH and I have no idea when to BD as I don't know where I am with still no AF but the doc wants to test my blood in 21 days after the start of the clomid so we are just going to try and BD like rabbits until then!!

I haven't felt sick with it yet but my stomach is very sore and bloated and I feel a little irritable (although that could be the whole situation and I'm just blaming the clomid!). I snapped my BIL's head off at the weekend because he wanted to watch X Factor and I think it's rubbish (apologies to anyone who loves it, I know I am in a minority!). I don't think he was quite prepared for the 5 minute rant about how rubbish it was!! He turned over though!!

TBD - how are you doing? That's all so exciting about the IVF and to think you could get your BFP so very, very soon. After such a long wait it could all be about to change for you so I hope you're keeping the PMA up.

Sanguine - has your AF turned up yet? You were waiting to start clomid too weren't you? Have you been to the doc? Mine said you can get caught in a vicious cycle of wanting AF to come and getting stressed because it doesn't and that stress keeping it away. I'd go and see the doc sooner rather than later and get yourself started. I felt a bit like I was wasting a cycle by not taking it on the right days but I guess if they do bloods on what would be CD21 they can tell if it's had any effect on my hormone levels. I have had ovary pain yesterday and it kind of felt like they were waking up!! I can only hope!!

How's Mrs H? Still on for catching up? I know AF found you a week or so ago so I hope you are back to full BDIng! DH & I had a great chat at the weekend and said we will be parents no matter what happens. If I can't have a biological child then we will definitely adopt. It was nice to know that we are in control of our destiny regardless of what hand we have been dealt physically. So I am full of renewed PMA that I will get to be a parent whatever happens.

Well best get on and get home to hop on the good foot and do the bad thing! Oh the things we have to do in the name of TTC!!

Speak soon

S xx

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Hey Sarah,

Good luck with the Clomid! I have just finished 3 cycles but sadly no BFP!

We started to BD from day 12 until after ov'd. Consultant advised cd12-16 but that is assuming you OV around CD14. Clomid often delays OV.

I hope that you are lucky and get a BFP and the symptoms don't get any worse.

Enjoy the BDing!

ABP xx

Just to wish you lots of luck with the Clomid Sarah.
I hope it brings you your BFP.
xxx

Hey! Good to see you back. Hope the clomid bring you a little luck, would be great to see your bfp. I agree that X Factor is rubbish btw although I do still watch it, which is worse! I do actually like the auditions, they are funny but I generally lose interest in the main show xx

Hey Sarah sweetie, Lovely to 'see' you! Great to hear you've got your PMA back and ready to go again hon. This could be all it takes for you to start your family.....I really do hope so. Sorry I can't offer any advice about clomid but i think BD'ing at least every other day for as long as possible would be a good plan hon.

It is exciting about IVF.....feeling a bit nervous about it all right now. Also just gearing up to ov so turning into crazy blimmin ov lady again.

Catch up properly soon hon as I'm really really tired. Am still up for meeting up with you Mrs H Rachie and anyone else who wants to.

Have you heard anything about the job yet hon? xxx

Hi to everyone else!!

Oh Sarah bless you love, I was wondering how you were getting on! Glad to hear that you have had few nasty side effects so far:) And I think a rant at X factor is certainly acceptable as your main side effect! lol.
Not sure what yours has said to you, but to let you know, my consultant said to bd every 2 days from finishing the last tablet to keep the 'boys' in optimum condition but also not miss any window of opportunity! Enjoy!!! :) Will have everything crossed for you that this is your time!!!
Very sweet of you to ask after me, I am still in limbo but with some sound advice from our wonderful TBD, am concentrating on the fact that i have an 'end date' to my limbo! We have decided to wait to see if AF does turn up (I keep thinking she is just round the corner...but then nothing, but we live in hope lol!) and if she does we will start the clomid then. If nothing has happened by Jan 1st, I will be starting my clomid then. I guess its just my last ditch attempt at trusting my own stupid body! :) I have started taking vitamin D so am hoping it will be my miracle cure!

Anyway I wish I lived close enough to join all you girls in a meet up, but I seem to be the only northerner! :)
x

Hey girlies!

Lovely to hear from all of you and thanks ABP & Sanguine for the clomid BDing advice!! My doc said every other day from last tablet but she didn't say when to stop! I guess AF, but I have a blood test after 21 days. ABP, are you doing more clomid? A lot of places say 3 months only but my doc said 6 months and she'll keep upping the dose if I don't OV. I hope there's a stop though else my ovaries might explode!!

Thanks Mrs DAO for the clomid luck and Socks for sharing my hate of the X Factor! Sometimes I feel like the only one!! How are things going with both of you? After Looby-Lou's lovely BFP, I do really feel we could do with a big boost of them. What were we saying about October being super fertile month??

TBD - there's nothing wrong with crazy OV lady. I have definitely been crazy BD lady this month and I don't even know if the clomid is doing anything yet! I think I have convinced myself it's a miracle drug. I'm thinking of you and I really admire your courage and strength in approaching the IVF route. You have definitely been an inspiration to me. Best of luck to you as always and you are of course in my prayers. I know you will get there and it could be so very, very soon.

Sanguine, you must have the patience of a saint! I do remember you saying your AF had gone AWOL before? Mine never has, it's always been there after 41 days but usually sooner so I was totally shocked. Of course I convinced myself I was pg and only a blood test from the doc would shake that conviction. I swear the b*tch does it to us on purpose! Let's hope she makes an appearance before January though and you can get started. I feel tired today and a little queasy this morning but apart from that I think I have got off quite lightly. I don't actually think I'm anymore moody than normal! I've had a very short fuse since starting ttc anyway!!

Any word from Rachie S? Here's hoping that right tube swung round and did it's job this month for you. We'll have to get some dates sorted soon too. Sanguine, I'm actually just south of Birmingham so I don't know how far North you are? I'm in Manchester a lot.

Lovely catching up with you ladies and here's to super fertile October!!

S xx

Ooh loving the sound of super fertile October, although we haven't actually done any bd'ing yet (apart from one to 'clear hubbie's boys out and make way for new ones' - yeah how romantic!!!).

Sarah, thanks so much for your kind words about us starting IVF (if we do...still don't want to jinx it by saying we will in case we get some duff test results somewhere). I'm glad I'm not the only crazy lady! I am really worrying I won't be able to get hubbie in the mood this month with IVF looming and stress levels rising again....but desperate not to waste the opportunity. It's not a particularly attractive combination!!! It seems that clomid often is a miracle drug honey, and I'm praying it is for you. I really am. Hope you're not sufferring too much with the queasiness and moodiness (made me smile when you said you're no more moody than normal!). Have heard IVF drugs will do the same but I cannot imagine being any worse than I have been this whole year!!!

Sanguine, so pleased you've set yourself a cut-off date and feeling better about things. It sounds like a good idea to give your body one last chance - seems like something you just need to do. And I am crossing everything that it comes through for you sweetie.

Rachie, am also thinking of you sweetie.

Hey to everyone else. xxxx

Keep the PMA up TBD, this month is still a chance for you although I am 100% sure all your tests will come back fine for IVF. You're ovaries etc. are in tip-top condition from what I remember so I am sure they would have identified something by now. But you may (and here's hoping and crosing everything that can be) not need to go down that route and I am truly hoping October is your super fertile month! I know what you mean about the whole thing not seeming very attractive though! Hubby knows I'm a sure thing every other day until goodness knows when and it doesn't make you feel like a wanted, desirable women but a crazy, desperate to get pg lady!! I wonder if BDing will ever be the same again!!

Any sign of AF Sanguine? I actually felt rubbish yesterday with a very sore head and feeling a bit sick but I'm better today so I can only assume it was the clomid. I also looked about 5 months pg with a HUGE belly but the bloating has gone down now. Oh, and my skin is worse than ever only it's not on my jaw line anymore but all over my face!! I even have little spots on my cheeks which I have never had before! Yay - you have all this to look forward to!! On the plus side I have definitely felt some ovary movement (if that's the right way to describe it? I'm suddenly very aware of where they are and they ache a little sometimes) sooo I'm hoping it's doing its stuff!

Rachie S, how are you doing sweetie? All has been very quiet from you I hope you're ok

S xx

Hey lovely!
Sorry to hear you were feeling a little off and bloated yesterday, but lets hope it was a price worth paying with your clomid twins on the way:) As for the spots - well - you are talking to someone who suffers even without the clomid adding to it, so god help me then!! Very encouraging that you can feel your ovaries waking up and getting ready to release:) You really should be filled with pma to brimming point now! I am definitely rooting for you!
You are right in remembering its not the first time my af has gone awol - i went nearly a year without one before the few i did have, so it just feels like I am going backwards rather than forwards at the moment. BUT - i have my deadline - Jan it is! As for patience of a saint, nothing like! I have all the patience of a kid in front of a christmas present!!! I want it, and i want it now! lol

TBD - you have been sounding really positive lately, that is so nice to see! It sounds like you have gotten into a really good headspace. I am glad you haven't ruled out this month - enjoy your bding again without the pressure - then at least if this isnt your month you know you have your treatment coming up. We will all be rooting for you girl! (terminology leaves something to be desired, but you know what i mean lol)

Rachie S has been quiet lately - hope she is ok?!

Anyway not long now till the weekend....although I am off to see a newborn so fingers crossed i can hold it together!
x

Hey lovely ladies, glad we've got a little chat thread going again!

Sarah, sorry you're suffering a bit with nasty symptoms - but it's got to be a good sign and as Sanguine says, will be worth it for those clomid twins. I get that ovary feeling in the run-up to ov and just after so def good sign. Know what you mean about being a sure thing! Although I'm like that most days regardless of TTC!!!! (TMI sorry)....at least your hubbie is up for it too (no pun intended!). I am going to have to drag mine into bed tonight before I start getting panicy that there's no swimmers in there.

Sanguine, he he about the kids at christmas comment!! Sounds v familiar!! You say you have no patience hon, but I think you have more than you realise. You have been through so much and have waited so long and you still sound positive and hopeful and are hugely supportive to others (myself included) on this forum. Stop putting yourself down honey....that's an order!!!

Rachie, thinking of you sweetie. Guessing you're needing some time to get your head round things / just trying to take your mind off it all. Hope that's it and nothing wrong.

As for me, yes I am feeling much much more positive of late than I have for the majority of this year. It's a nice feeling. I still have my down days but they're a lot more manageable now. I am just really excited about starting IVF and have every hope pinned on us starting soon, so will be a tad upset (ie completely devastated) if it turns out we can't. Had a major panis yest as I popped into surgery to get my blood test results pre-IVF (HIV, hep B, hep C and AMH levels) and was told I had to book an appt with GP. As this is not how they usually do it I convinced myself it's because they need to tell me I have HIV. Went home, phoned hubbie, had a little cry, and then he instructed me to phone back GP more forcefully. Managed to convince receptionist to give me results and it sounds like the infection ones all cam back neg but she didn't understand the hormone levels one. Am hoping it's all ok.....that would really be the last straw. So, full steam ahead and initial IVF appt next week. Am pretty nervous as well as very excited! Now just need to BD lots before appt and hope a miracle happens (not holding my breath though). Have good evenings lovely lovely ladies xxxxxx

Hey all, I am here!! I have had a few days off, I have been a bit down this week. For no reason really, but I don't know I just got a bit down with it all and the lack of a bump really! Not been this bad before and it has just knocked me for 6 really. I been absolutely shattered which has not helped and been asleep by 9 every eve,
AF is due on tuesday I think... so I am just waiting for her arrival. I just wish she would turn up early now!
Sarah... glad to hear that you are on the clomid :) I got really really bad skin when I started on it... try some vitamin E that has helped me loads. Also if you feel like you are starting to "dry up" (sorry tmi) get some evening primose oil as since I have been on that I have so much more EWCM.
Sanguine... any since of AF? How long has it been now??? I can't believe how when we don't want AF to show her face she does quite happily and when we actually do want her to come she happily ignores us!!!! The bit*h!
TBD... fantastic that the infection ones have come back negative. If the hormone one was abnormal the doc would have probably put a note on it saying that you were too come in... so it is looking so promising!!!! That is so exciting about starting IVF next week :)
Here is to a super fertile October :)
xxxx

Hey Rache, lovely to hear from you again. Sorry to hear you have been feeling down. I totally know that feeling. But don't forget your plan for 2010 if all doesn't come good for you before then. And I have such a positive feeling that it will. Big hugs to you xx

Well, my AF decided to arrive this morning and ruin all my plans for super fertile October!! It's a very heavy painful one with LOTS of clots so hopefully my acupuncturist will be pleased! CD 68 but if we count the spotting as AF then it's a 25 day cycle which is not right either. I think I just skipped a month as I've done that before if I've been stressed. So I think the spots and bloating and moodiness could well have been PMS and not the clomid! Phoned the doc this morning and she said to start a new course tomorrow on the 50 mg and see what happens with a proper cycle. Fingers crossed for those clomid twins!!

TBD, it all sounds positive for the IVF and I don't think there is anything to worry about with the tests. They probably want you to book in with the GP to discuss all the results. They did that with me anyhow with my hormone tests. They may want you to have the results to take to the IVF clinic as that may influence what they do. Are you reading LDOM's blog? I am so excited for her and her three embabies and to think that could be you in such a very short time! You have everything on your side, healthy ovaries, you're still young and fit and healthy so I see no reason why you won't be able to proceed.

Sanguine, how are you doing my lovely? Any AF for you yet? She is giving me hell in my stomach at the moment - I just want to curl up in a ball with a hot water bottle!! :( I'll keep her with me though so she doesn't visit you Rache!!

Best of luck everyone. I'm out for an October BFP now but I'll settle for a November one!!

S xx

Oh Sarah,
Am so so so sorry af found you! I was so hopeful for your fertile Oct! Clearly you bubs just doesnt want to be born in July, and favours the warmer temps of August:) Bring on your November bfp!!!! Keep up the pma, as you say, you have now created a lovely environment for your sticky bean to get cosy next month after a good clear out:)

Rachie - hi! Was beginning to think you had upped and left us:) Sorry to hear you have been having a hard time of it lately, I think there are loads of us in the same situation - i tried to blame it on the changing seasons but everyone else seems to love winter so I got outvoted lol ;)
I still have pma for you this month - hoping that your 'shatteredness' is for a very good reason! Will be hoping Af is exhausted after visiting Sarah and forgets all about you on Tuesday!

TBD - glad you got the all clear on your infection tests. That is just another tick in the box on the way to your bfp! As Sarah says, you have everything else on your side to be able to start your ivf (unless of course you are already over on pregnancy after getting your natural bfp!) as soon as you want it, with great odds. Will be thinking of you as you gear up for your initial ivf appointment...with your great positive attitude in tow I am sure you will find yourself with a lovely new addition (or two!) next year.

As for me - nope - no af and no real feelings she is looking for me. Boo. Going to visit a new born this weekend as well so wish me luck in being able to hold it all together!!!
Have a great weekend ladies
x

Hey ladies,

Rachie - great to see you again, although really sorry you've been feeling so down sweetie. I can totally empathise as I went through a really down patch when I first joined this site up until about now. It really sucks. I think once you've got the ball rolling with your next plan your PMA will return. However, I am really hopeful that the exhaustion is a good sign as well honey. It's so hard to stay positive all the time....and actually not realistic in my opinion. We all have our down patches honey, but you will get through it and come out the other side.

Sarah, so sorry to hear AF arrived today....what an absolute cow doing this to you when you'd just started clomid. I know it must be gutting but I think in the long-run you'll probably feel better knwoing for sure that you've had AF and can start clomid properly. Hopefully a good clear-out will make way for some lovely little embies next month..... Hope you're not suffering too much and are treating yourself to all things yummy. I have been an avid reader of LDOM's blog and threads and cannot wait to be in her position.....(and of course hear of her BFP). Hpw are things on the job front hon?

Sanguine, oh honey sorry to hear nothing is happening still. I guess all you can do is keep bd'ing just in case....you never know honey. You sound pretty down in your posts and I really wish I could come and give you a huge hug. As you say there's lots of people feeling down on here at the moment, so do sound off to us as we all know how you're feeling even if we're in slightly different situations. I think you should continue to blame it on the seasons anyway.....so what if everyone else likes winter...if you don't then it's not going to help your mood. Any chance of a sunny holiday for you hon??

As for me, I had stopped thinking about my test results but am worried again now about the doc putting a note on that I need to go in. OMG what if it is my hormone levels....what if they've suddenly mucked up? Ahhhhhgggghhhh. Oh well, I have an appt next week so need to keep my mind off it and assume that it's nothing serious. I am not too hopeful for a natural BFP....think I'll be ov'ing next few days but neither me or hubbie been in the mood, even though we both really want to avoid IVF if we can. Hoping we'll get some bd'ing in over the weekend but equally I can't see the point in worrying about it as the chances are so slim. Sorry, not a very positive post....I am feeling positive really! Hope you all have lovely weekends xxxx

Evening All..
Thank you for thinking about me and everything, I don't think this weather is helping but I don't know. Just a bit down, I am sure I will snap out of it soon. :) I unfortunately don't think my tiredness is an symptom, I think I have worn myself out with work.
Sarah despite having AF come now least you know where your body is now... and now it is time for those clomid twins :) :) Sounds like a good AF though so shows you are having a good clear out for those eggs to implant :) :)
Sanaginue... I am so annoyed for you ! when are you back at the docs? Surely they will give you provera or something soon? I hope seeing the new born was OK, I know how hard it is to put a smile on your face some days in those situations (although I know we are happy for them etc but it is so hard). I have my nephews 5th birthday next week, and my af is due the day before I am going to his birthday party and at the moment I can't think of anything worse being surrounded by tiny kids when I get my AF.
TBD... don't panic!! They won't have messed up, everything is fine hun. Just don't panic, and don't forget that natural BFP could still happen esp as the pressure (as such!) is now off...

Hope you lovely ladies are having fantastic weekends,
hugs to us all,
xxxx

Hey girlies,

Hope you all had a lovely weekend and are feeling positive this morning despite the run around we seem to be having at the moment with AFs and doctor's tests and ovaries not playing ball! Sanguine, how was seeing the new born? Friends of ours had their baby on Friday and it took me to this morning to look on Facebook at the photos. I felt like a real b*tch not wanting to rush on straight away as everyone else had done. I text them congratulations though and have bought a card today. DH will have to come with me for the present though. DH & I actually weren't together when the text came through as I was on the train and he rang me to check I was alright. I gave him a big hug when I saw him as I just thought that was the sweetest thing. But babies arriving don't floor me in the same way as new pg annoucements. I guess you know they are coming and new borns are so sweet that you can't help feeling a real warm fuzzy feeling for the new family as well as that inevitable ache of longing for your own.

But I am being positive this morning!! Bring on the clomid twins!! AF was a total b*tch and she's still with me but that's good as my acupuncturist wanted 5 days and I'm on CD4. It's not so heavy now and the pain has subsided but I was dosing myself up with painkillers which is unusual for me. I know this is going to sound vile so my apologies in advance but there was definitely more 'flow' so I am feeling quite positive that the acupuncture has done something to help balance me out. So now I have to let the clomid do it's thing. I have been suffering with the hot flashes at night and been feeling a little queasy at strange times and a headache that comes on about half an hour after I take it for about 2 hours but then goes. It's not so bad. So Sanguine, I hope AF arrives for you sharpish and then you can get onto taking it. Fingers crossed for a clomid miracle!!

There have been some great BFPs this month in LTTTC though and I am also very positive for LDOM after reading her blog this morning. I really do hope this is the start of a BFP pandemic!! TBD, great to hear you feeling so positive and I feel sure your hormone levels will be fine. You say your AF is always bang on time (annoyingly so I know!!) and you got the all clear before so there is no reason for your hormones to have gone haywire now. Have you booked to see your GP? Things could all be happening so soon for you - I can't wait to read your BFP post!!

Rache, big hugs to you. As I said before take the time to feel sorry for yourself as this is not where any of us wanted to be. But remember the plan for 2010 (if we don't get there before). It WILL be our year one way or another I just know it. I'm thinking of you xx

Best get on and do some work I suppose!! November BFPs all round I hope!! I just realised that AF will be due just before my birthday so this could either be the best of the worst of birthdays! I really hope I'll be refusing the booze!

S xx

Well my clomid isnt working I dont think. Despite having loads of ewcm a few days ago and ov pains a week ago my temp just hasnt risen. FF said I ovd on Friday but I know its because I drunk wine over the weekend that made my temps rise so I'm not taking that seriously. Oh well at least I'll be able to drink at my 30th party in 2 weeks!

Sarah, now you've had a good clear out Clomid should work a treat for you! xxx

Hello lovelies,
Rachie - big big hugs honey. So sorry to hear you're feeling so down. Think sanguine has a good point about the weather....winter blues....combined with all your recent stresses, not surprised you're not feeling too bright. Try not to give up hope though sweetie. If this month is not your month (which it still could be), then focus on your next plan and those almost 50% chances of conceiving with IVF - they are really good odds.

Sarah, I know what you mean - pg announcements are definitely the worst - I live in fear of them as you know. Am really really pleased to hear you're feeling so positive honey. Saw on another thread you're a clomid baby yourself - now if that isn't evidnece that it works I don't know what is??!! Sorry to hear you're suffering so badly, but it probably is a good thing really as suggests everything is working properly. And to be fair if it's not going to be clearing out for another 9 months it needs to have a good one now!! Thanks for the reassurance about hormone tests sweetie - I am hoping you're right...everything you say makes sense as always! I have my appt tomorrow morning. Have stopped thinking about it over the weekend as needed to focus on relaxing (if that's possible?!) and bd'ing. Loving the sound of a BFP pandemic. Ooh am so hoping you get the BEST birthday present ever then sweetie.

Sparkly, hey hon...have replied on your other thread. If there's EWCM then get bd'ing just in case!

Sanguine, how are you doing sweetie?

xxxx

Morning All...
TBD are you excited about tomorrow's appt? I bet you just can't wait to get into the actual procedure.
Hope you are ok?!
Sarah hope the horrid AF has calmed down now!?! As TBD says a good clear out was need as you won't be having one with those clomid babies settling down this month!!!
Sparkly... how are you huN? I too responded on the other thread but hope you are feeling a little brighter today?
Sanguine hope you are OK? I really hope something has kicked started the AF!?
I am on knicker watch (sorry TMI) today... it is AF due day!!!! First thing DH said to me this morning was "has your period arrived"... aaahhhh!!!
xxx

Ooh thinking of you today Rache! The witch is still with me but the pain has gone although I will try and keep her here and away from you!!

I have been feeling a bit rubbish from the clomid I think but my acupuncturist last night said she could detect something in my fire element which she has balanced out now. She said it was tension which is not surprising seeing all the work stuff is still up in the air, but I am trying not to think about that!

I was a clomid baby, TBD and I only just found that out! I knew it took my mum a long time to have me and then I was asking her what was wrong before I went to the doctor so I could see if it was family history. She had large cysts on her ovaries which had to be removed and then she said they gave her some drugs which she conceived me on first cycle (after booking a lovely holiday away that she would not be able to go on as she was too pg! I think there is a lot to be said for that!) I kind of didn't think anymore of it and then I was talking to her the other day and she asked me what my drug was called. She said hers was pink in colour and she couldn't remember the name but as soon as I said mine she said 'that's it!'. So it has given me renewed faith. My mum went on to have three more children without clomid too including twins :) The only problem is, while it's great to talk to her about it, she is very much of the opinion that it will happen and it's just a matter of time because it all worked out for her. Sometimes I want to acknowledge that there is a chance it might not work and know that I will be able to deal with that if it does arise. But of course all of me hopes it will never come to that and we have to keep the PMA up!

Sanguine, any sign of AF? I really hope the witch has stopped messing you around. She is such a b*tch sometimes. I hope you get out of limbo soon and get started on the clomid. Although it's made me feel rubbish it feels better mentally to be doing something. Fingers crossed it works!

Sparkly, I'm just going to check your other thread now but I just wanted to give you a big hug. Don't give up on it just yet, I know you took yours at a funny time too with no AF and so it might just need more time to work when it's not taken on the 'right' days. Fingers crossed for you sweetie and for those lovely clomid babies we WILL be getting very soon.

Big hugs girlies.

S xx