my 18mth old daughter has been in her own bed for 2mths now and has been sleeping through the night with the odd night waking once but settling back off by herself she has never been a good sleeper but since fri she wont go to bed for me (bedtime is 7pm) takes me about 2 hrs to get her to sleep then she is back up within 2 hrs and is then up and down all nite i just dont know what to do and im so tired

hi. didnt want to read and run. im afraid im not going to be much help but just wanted to sympathise with you. my little one is just turning 18months and we have been going through the same thing although she still in her cot (hoping to get her into bed when daddy finally builds it). she used to be such a great wee sleeper but these days she satrts to cry when we put her down and it can take anything up to 2 hours to settle her. its even worse if my oh tries it. im hoping its just a phase and im trying to be as strict as i can so that she doesnt think she can get away with it but it so hard when they have been on the go allday and your tired. i hope it gets better soon or we find a reason for it. for both of us.xxx

thanks i hope we both get it sorted soon its been hard today been feeling really sick and she is now refusing to go for a nap in her bed or cot after 2 hrs of struggling she wanted her pram least it better than nothing i guess

hi beckyboop just wandered how you getting on with lo. i think we might have made a break through. i met my hv when i was picking up a pres yesterday and she said to use pick up/put down. think it just another word for controlled crying. well it took 3 hours but she finally settled and tonight she was down within 30mins so im hoping weve cracked it.

hi still no better took me 3hrs 20mins tonight but she did sleep alot better last nite once i got her there managed to get 4hrs solid sleep so im hoping for the same tonight cause i aint feeling to good and oh has to get up at 5am for work so cant expect him to get up and down with her ill give it a go tomorrow nite thanks

its so hard isnt it. especially when your not getting any sleep. i always say you can tackle anything as long as your getting your sleep. my oh the same up early in the morning and i worry about him driving to work when he had no sleep. im just hoping its worked. it might have been a fluke.lol. saying that hse seems pretty sound at the mo so heres hoping for both of us.xx

yeah aint heard a peep out of her so lets hope it was just for a short time and they get back to sleeping tidy again cause id love a good nites sleep right now

hi just to say i tried what you said and only took me 25 mins its great ive had food and bath and the house is tidy and it aint even 10pm just hope she stays there hows it going with you hope all is going well

hiya. so glad it worked you must feel relaxed. we done ok although she was at 12.30 and then again at 1.30 last night. but this morning she smiled at me and i can see a bottome tooth poking through so i think thats what it was. we ended up giving her some calpol coz she seemed in pain. today at nap time was better though she went down without a fight so heres hoping we have both cracked it.

yeah in hoping so i feel so much better from getting everything done and i can have an early nite for a change

thought id let you know she went to bed at 7 only had to got up 3 times and was fast asleep by 7:15 thanks for you help just hope it stays like this now hope your having the same results as i am

hiya. so glad things have got better. chloe been good too. she went down first time tonight and she only woke once through the night but i know that her mouth really bothering her. she was only up for 10minutes then back down again. heres hoping it lasts. youl be enjoying the rest.xx

yeah loving it oh is away for the nite so can sit and watch what i want on tv really fancy a glass of wine but have to wait till the end of the month hope your enjoying the rest too

well i was going to put my feet up and relax but ive started tidying and once i get started thats me. she been full on the last couple of days it probably her mouth so she hasnt givin me a minute so nothing has been done and im back at work tomorrow. it never ends does it.xx

no it never does got loads of ironing to do and it aint going to get done by its self lol managed a bit of tidying earlier she went with her dad for a few hrs. im lucky im a kept women at the moment oh wants me to stay at home while we add to the family dont know how long ill be happy doing that for miss working

thats what im doing at the moment a pile of ironing. i work 3 days but its enough to give me a wee break but i miss her like mad when im away. im lucky my sil takes her 2 days and my mum amd mil take turns on a saturday although she has her dad tomorrow coz he not working for once. are you ttc. we will be at the end of june.xx

she only sees her dad 6 hrs wk and half the time it at my house cause she wont leave with him other than that i have her so dont get much time to myself. yeah this is my first month ttc aint had to try before as i was on the pill with my daughter so im not enjoying waithing to test

i dont either. my oh leaves for work at crak of dawn and not back till 7 so i got her most of time. we didnt really try last time either. i came off pill and fell first time but im not convinced it happening as quick this time. im finishing my last pack of pill so be trying after that. when was your lo born. chloe was december.

seren was born on nov 11th she was 4 wks early im we wernt going to try till the end of the year but oh said lets try now so stopped my pill end april and just waiting for the 30 or 31st to see if af turn up

chloe was dec the 5th. she was only 2days early. my sil had baby same day which was spooky. were you nervous about trying again. i am. dont know why im desperate for another and oh the same. is nerve racking waiting. i didnt really bother last time coz didnt think there was any way id fall in first month.

no not really ive wanted another soon after i had seren im more nervous about telling the familys his family more than mine his mam dont want any more granchildren i dont think we have done it this month will be gitted but will try again next month and every month till it happens i guess i got plenty of time im only 27 this year

thats the way to think about it. they say the more realxed you are the better. thats a shame about his mum but im sure she change her mind when baby comes. i was broody as soon as chloewas born but i wanted to spend some time with her before we had another. its hard no to get upset isnt it even when you tell yourself it fine. you never know maybe you have.xx

i thought i was having signs but then ive read some of the posts and i dont know now cause some sighs can be cause i can straight off the pill and started without having a normal af but aint got a clue deep down im hoping i am cause i was only on the pill 3 months

ooh how exciting. you never know. i never had a normal af first time round. i fell the month i came off. just thought it was my body getting used to no pill but all along i was preg. my sister just found out she expecting and she dragged me to midwife the other day coz she was nervous. it brought back all sorts of memories and midwife asked when she would be seeing me again. i was really nervous but ive been speaking to the girls on ttc and they all so nice and put my mind at ease so im getting excited about it now.

thats the thing i aint asked really just been reading did say how i was feeling and some were saying its the pill and others i could be pg so dont know all i know is i have very sore boobs (feels like i need to feed my daughter but stopped that at 10mths)and i dont get that b4 af. they do seem nice people. i bet you cant wait to start i cant wait to test so i know either way

i cant wait for you to test now either.lol. im looking forward to starting just hope it doesnt take too long dont know how id cope with af turning up every month. how did you go last night. chloe's teeth really giving her gip. she has been up since 3.30 snoozed a bit at 5 but then back up at 6. im working today and feeling really tired.xx

i feel bad now cause seren slept all nite for me till 8am but im still tired and i had 8 hrs sleep so you must e feeling worse than i do and you have work 2day

hey dont feel bad by the sounds of it youve had your share of sleepless nights. i suppose we both better get used to it again if we having more.lol. i got through work fine and funnily dont feel that tired. she hopefully be back to normal when this tooth through. that is till the next one. has seren got many.xx

she has 11 so far how about chloe. my friend keeps telling me ill be fine with the sleepless nights cause seren has been such a bad sleeper lets just hope it wont take us both too long having them

chloe only got 6. both her eye teeth have pushed through and this week another on the bottom is through. so she'll have nine altogether when they through. they seem to have taken forever. she was 10month before we got her first. im hoping she is shattered from last night. she went down first time tonight and seems settled so heres hoping.

i keep trying to set myself up for having to try this time so that i dont get to caught up in falling first time but it hard because i fell so easy last time i know i be gutted if i dont this time

same here didnt have to try for seren cause i was on the pill ive set my mind to 6mths so i just hope it happens by then cause i will be gutted then i think. seren was 10 mths having her first (and a very bad teether from the start) she is still missing 1 at the bottom which ive been worried about but hv said its normal im having the dentist take a look on wed just to be sure. seren was half hr late going to bed tonight cause we took the kids out for the day and then went to see oh mam for a bit and she wanted to bath the kids so i was glad to have half hr to sit down cause oh daughter is full of beans all the time and seren tries to keep up so im always running around on a sat making sure they r ok

you must have your hands full when you have both of them. it good to take the rest when you can. chloe's like that. i dont think she knows what her bum is for. she even stands to watch tv. she didnt go down till 9 tonight coz we took her a walk with dog.

im hoping by the time we start ttc i be relax and just let it happen when its meant to. if i dont fall within a few month i can start worrying bout dates then.

they are a hand full put it dont put us off having anymore thank god lol seren is like that but is learning how to bend and balance now watching tv she does some silly things but it makes my day cause its different. ive worked out my cycle and ov this month cause i wanted to make sure i was ov as i read some storys about not ov after the pill so got a bit worried and the tests showed i was so hopefully it wont take too long for both of us second time round

oh god no. never be put off having more. i love it to bits. i always worried about chloe growing up coz ive always been a baby person. i was so worried that i would want her to stay a baby forever but i cant belive how much fun she is. everyday she makes me laugh. such entertainment. you know if it wasnt for the money and the room i think id have 10.

oh would like to have 5 but not sure about that yet cause he dont wont me to work till the youngest goes to school and im worried we wont have the money for 5 so told him we will c hoe it goes after the next 1 i love babys but never wanted an of my own till i was 25 wanted to have my life first and ive been lucky enough having seren stay so small its like having a baby for longer but she is growing up too quick now but its great watching her learn new skills even if most of them she wants to do by herself now so just get to watch most of the time

thats exactly how we felt. we got married 8 years ago but had no intention of having kids till we felt ready. i was 28 when i had chloe. im 30 now so thats why dont want to leave it too long. i feel same with chloe. when they stay as small their babyness seems to last longer.

how did last night go. chloe went all night. today we went to family for the day coz we had relitives up from down south so we didnt leave till 7.30pm so chloe fell asleep in the car. got her home put her to bed and she woke up an hour later ready to play. there was no way she was going to sleep. so we had her up for a while and now she is in her cot crying while i try to settle her every now and then. thats why im on here. oh is picking sil up from airport so im on myself and trying to stop myself from giving in. suppose its my own fault for upsetting her routine.

WELL IT IS 10.50PM AND ALL IS FINALLY QUIET. LOL

sorry had an early nite kids had us on the go all day again seren went to bed at 8pm a bit late but slept through till 7am 2day sat nite she was up and down all nite but kept her in her own room for once wanted the bed all to myself lol hope chloe slept well for u last nite

she did thanx when we finally got her off she went through. i had to wake her at 8 coz my mum was coming for her. im working today. you know i can never sleep when chloe i beside me. she such a rumbly sleeper.

same as seren she loves to take up all the bed and still kick hell out of me hope work goes ok

work fine although its sooo boring. its a bank hol and they always quiet i have no idea why we just dont shut. i would so rather be at home with chloe i miss her like mad when im at work but at the same time i enjoy the break if you know what i mean. are you having any more symptoms. cant be long till you test.xx

no new ones but getting dizzy quite alot now and some cramping but not like i normally get cause i suffer from really bad peroid pains and im due about fri or sat . i guess im lucky that i get to stay at home while oh goes to work but would be nice to have some time too myself every now and then

didnt get on last night. my inlaws just back from hol so they came to see chloe.
when im getting ready for work in the morning i wish i didnt have to go but once im here i enjoy the wee bit of freedom if you know what i mean. and i think its good for her. she doesnt go to nursery she stays with my sil so she gets to spend time with her cousin (he's 4). it must be good for seren having your oh's lo about for company. i worry about that. her not really seeing alot of other kids. she got 2 cousins the same age (1 on same day) and i try to make sure we spend time with them.

im lucky seren has alot of children around her my friend next door has a little boy who is a month younger plus my friend is only up the road and has a 6mth old and a 3yr old plus i have another friend who is due in aug and she has a boy same age as seren and we all try to meet up at least twice a wk once in playgroup and we try to go out for food. its so much nicer now that seren and maddy are getting on all they used to do was fight cause maddy is 3 and is used to having her dad all to herself hit seren the other wk cause she called him dad and she didnt like it but now she tells her to call him dad how ting change. hows work going 2day im so fed up 2day seren is having a nap ready to c her dad so i cant do anything till she wakes up sorry if ive gone on abit really fed up 2day

so sorry. i didnt noticed you had posted back. i could have done with the chat as well.lol. its good that they get on now. it would just make your life so mcuh harder if they didnt. im meeting my sil tomorrw. she had lo same day i had chloe. we going to go softplay with kids. ive just spent 4 hours cleaning my kitchen. i spelt something when i came in last night but didnt get a chance to clean it coz inlaws were in but 2night when i came in it was worse. so ive cleaned every inch and have just found mushed broccoli in a crevis in the highchair. lovely aay.lol

thats ok seren has been in a bad mood since going with her dad she has given me a little it of a black eye and went to hit the little boy next door which aint like her. were off to the dentist today then some shopping. seren has a thing about hiding food and dummies in her toy boxes its a pain hope you have a nice day

hi. have you had a good day. chloe sleeping. we have been to softplay and they had a ball. each time we meet up they seem to play a little better. got to wait till chloe wakes up then do some food shopping. ive got to pick my mum up from work first so hoping she can keep chloe till i come back. makes the shopping trip quicker.

yeah not a bad day but dentist is worried about serens teeth said she should have ore by now and is a year behind with them told me she has to stop having a dummy full time which she aint been happy with she mainly has it for naps anyway so i dont think ill be having much sleep for a while now unless i give in and let her have it not looking forward to tonight now. seren has just got up from a half hr nap wish i could have my mam watch seren for an hour so i can have a nap myself but she had to go out and didnt want to take seren for a drive

that means chloe must be behind as well. ive always thought that. both my nieces are same age and have much more than she has. chloe doesnt have a dummy what she does have is her thumb which i have no chance of getting off her.lol. she does only use it when she tired so im hoping it wont do too much damage. is seren in a better mood today. chloe been in a hungry mood she has eaten everything in site.

seren has stuffed her face all day think it might be that she has wanted something to replace her dummy been hard getting her to bed i gave in 10 mins ago cause she is so tired and wont sleep without her dummy she used to suck her thumb but the hospital told me to give her a dummy at 6wks old cause she was breastfeeding all the time and she just needed some thing to suck on

i tried to give chloe a dummy thought it would be easier to get her off of later on but she was for none of it. maybe you should just try to wean her off during the day at first and let her have it at night. does she suck it alnight or just till she sleeps. chloe only sucks hers if she disturbed and trying to get back to sleep. i worry coz it already red and the nail soft. mum took chloe and i got my shopping done. does seren sleep much during the day. i fell alseep with chloe this morning for an hour. my head been sore allday and ive been so tired i think im in for something as ive now got a sore throat.

seren nornally has 1 nap at lunch time for between 1 -2hrs. some days she wants another nap but they are never longer than an hr.seren only sucks the dummy till she is asleep and in the day she normally only has it for naptime take it off her when she is asleep if its still in her mouth and if she is upset. im going to try again tomorrow but think i will leave the night for now just so i can catch up on sleep. atleast if you are going to be ill now you will be fighting fit for ttc next mth

yeah hopefully. its easy for the dentist to tell you to take it off her its not him losing the sleep.lol. chloe still sleeps twice a day and its for 1 -1 1/2 at a time. i dont think she sleeps like that at my sil or at my mums just when she goes down in the cot. she must just be comfy. you know i dont see me ever getting chloe off her thumb. my bil sucked his all his life and even now when he is tired or stressed he still sits with the tip of his thumb in his mouth. are you not due to trst soon. im all nervous for you.

i gave in and gave her a dummy through the nite was up and down and at 4am was fed and wanted sleep so when she got up at 7 a took it off her but she has it back now cause she is tired im aiming for 2-3hrs off the dummy then work form there i got 6mths till she has to go back for another check up so gives me a bit of time to get her off it. im due to test sat got a cb in the draw ready getting itchy feet now though oh half said i aint aloud to use it yet but want to know

no dont test yet.lol. i dont blame you for giving in. he cant expect you just to take it off her. your probably right if you take it away for a couple fo hours at a time then she probably start to forget about it. i got a long lie this morn. couldnt believe it i woke at 8.30 and chloe was still sound she slept till 9 from 8.45 last night. but i feel worse for it. mum having chloe on saturday night and we going for a fews drinks to a friends. she has only stayed out a couple of times and i havent been able to relax yet so im hoping this time i can enjoy myself

Hi can i gatecrash on here as im in a similar position got a lo whos 18months and just started ttc the next although it doesnt look like its goinig to be as easy this time, dd was conceived in the first month before we were even really trying anyway sorry for gatecrashing i was just excited to see other people who are in the exact same position x

ill try to hold out till sun if i can but if af aint here sat morn might get tempted to test then. seren has never slept out ive only been out 5 times without her since she was born oh is alays having a go at me cause i never want to leave her but who ever i get to watch her in the house they never stick to the way i do things and she is always up when i get home

pandalamb hope you dont have to wait too long for your bfp

im the same oh is always on at me. i say to him "i dont get a minute to myself" and he says "thats cause you wont bloody leave her" lol. she stayed at my mums when she was 7 months because my oh and mum told me it would be good for her. but she never stayed again till last month. i think weve been for dinner a couple of times but mums came here. i find it so hard not to be in control if you know what i mean. i know im probably a bit of a freak but who cares she's my babba.

hi pandalamb good luck ttc. we conceived chloe in the first month but we not officially trying till i finish this course of pills in 21days.

i dont think your a freak in glad im not the only 1 who is like it cause all my friend and family have always left their kids to have time to themselves but it was harder for me cause she was breastfeed for so long that i got used to having her with me all the time plus i like having seren involved in everything so she can learn more. how you feeling about ttc next month think ill still be trying next month

well its nice to meet someone who is as big a freak as me.lol. i only managed to bf chloe for 2weeks and expressed for another 3. she was so lazy she wouldnt suck and it was the same when she went onto bottles. she would take an ounce at a time and then go to sleep so i was obsessed by how much or little she was eaten so it was easier to have her with with so i knew what she was having at all times. i think ive got over my nervousness and getting quite excited about it now.

seren was a lazy feeder 2 but was told not to give up unless i wanted to i was lucky had alot of support off midwife and health visitor i had to give her bottles at 3 mths cause she was loctose intolerant but would take about an hr to drink 5 oz cause she kept falling asleep. im more nervous now than i was dont know why though

thats prob why they so neat. chloe took ages to put on any weight. we had to mean her before i was ready to coz she kept losing weight. you probably nervous coz its seems real now. we are going visiting for an hour to see my sil. been stuck in allday. my head still killing me i think it bloody hayfever.

i weaned seren at 5mths cause she was very slow at gaining weight she lost loads after she was born thats how we ended up in hospital till just b 4 xmas she went down to 4lb14.5 oz was born at 5lb 4.5oz (4 wks early) thats how they found out she was loctose intolerant after loads of tests when they only needed to check her poo

we were the same although we got home then taken back in. chloe was born 7 pnds 14 ounces but dropped to 6 pounds 13ounces. if you look back at pics you can see her shrink. when was seren's due date if she was early. its so horrible to see them getting all the tests done isnt it. chloe came home with wee plasters on her hands from the tests she was a wee soul.

seren was due 6th dec i hated watching her the doc i had said she had to have a feeding tube so they could make sure she was getting the right amount of milk the doc wanted her to have she would rip it out about 5 times a day so refused after 2 days to have 1 put back in cause there was other ways to feed her

chloe was due 7th but born on 5th. i dont blame you. its so horrible seeing things done to them. you feel so helpless. i used to sit in the kitchen crying coz chloe wouldnt drink any milk. i was the same when she started eating solids. i would be tipping stuff into the bin crying but never in front of her. i was a bad eater and my mum used to force me to sit at the table till i was finished. could be 3 hours sometimes and i promised i would never do that. so even though its drives me mad when she doesnt eat i never show it in front of her. i just take it away and say "thats ok" and try again at the next meal. i dont want her to have hang ups like i had.

same here i give seren half hr with her food if she dont want it then i just take it away and offer something else she has 4 meals and 2 snacks a day cause they aint big meals my sister was the bad eater im the family ould take her 3 hrs 2 drink 5oz when she was a baby

yeah chloe like that eats little and often. if she eats to much in one go she is just sick. she was up screaming last night. i think her mouth really bothering her. we gave her calpol and within 5mins it was all calm and she was back to sleep. i hate it that she has to go through all this pain. are you up to anything exciting today. ive just been to town and met mum for a coffee. chloe sleeping now was going to hang washing out but i think weather about to turn. its so warm though.

i aint done anything today had every1 turn up here with their kids so house ended up in a mess serens dad is here now has to stay here cause she dont want to go with him. seren had a unsettled nite last nite so really tired 2day i just wish the summer would hurry up and get here

serens dad is such a tit he only spent hour and half with her and complains when she is having a nap when he gets here he is such a prick sorry in a bad mood now im goin to go for a walk to calm down plus seren will love the walk

poor you. sorry didnt get back on yesterday i had visitors last night so had to tidy up for them coming. will she not go away with at all. men dont seem to see why its important that they sleep. you know im trying t type stuff here and my brain wont let me.lol. i didnt get to sleep till midnight last night with my visitors being here then having to have a bath and then chloe got up at 12.20 and didnt go back down till 3. im so tired and im supposed to be going out tonight. ive kinda fell out with oh coz ive told him that i dont think we be going coz im not leaving her with my mum for her to have her up allnight. he doesnt seem to see a prob but in my eyes she 's ours and if she is up at night i shouldnt be expecting other people to be up with her. im my own worst enemy i know. it just took me 10mins to type that im sooo tired. how did seren go last night.

seren woke up at 11.50 and was up till 3 too must have been something in the air last nite oh wants to go out for a meal tonight but dont think we will ill only fall asleep in my food lol im hoping seren will have a good nap later so i can do some tidying up and washing

if we were nearerwe could have had a cup of tea.lol. ive just got a txt from oh to say chloe been sick. she prob in fr the cold thats what usually happens. whenshe like this.

yeah not much fun on your own and they wont sleep not sure if seren is going to come down with somthing she got a stuffy nose 2day

oh the joys aye. im worjking till 5.30 ill be lucky to keep my eyes open.lol. any sign of af.

no signs at all but done a test and there is a faint line so will have to wait a few more days i guess and just see what happens i feel sorry for you having to work 2day i can just about stay awake and i aint got anything to do

ooh how exciting. its ok got all the end of month accounts and invoices to do so hopefully the rest of the day fly past. ive just had a txt to say chloe's had a nap and they now at swing park and she in a great mood. it amazing how they recoup so quick

seren is having her nap now so hopefully she will be in a good mood later been really grumpy 2day, thats good about chloe maybe she will let you sleep tonight if seren is up again i think ill get oh up and he can watch her till she wants to sleep i hate being this tired just dont feel like doing anything

i know its so hard to keepgoing especially in themiddle of the night. my oh tries to help but just ends up falling asleep. i keep threatening to go into the spare room and leave him with her but im scared he falls asleep and she falls off the bed.lol

yeah im lucky i can fit in serens bed with her if i really need to oh normally sleeps through seren crying only wakes up if i put her in our bed and she jumps on him but soon falls back off 2 sleep seren likes to sleep im my bed though so ends up im the middle atleast once a wk

i tried taking chloe in beside me last night. coz oh was out and i was myself but she wont bloody settle she just lies awake. then ive got to guess when she is at the point where she will go back in the cot. she wont even taking milk if she wakes in the night now. my mum keeps phoning to see what im doing tonight. she keeps saying she will take her doesnt matter if she up in the night. her and oh wont get it. they want me to catch up on slep but i wont sleep ill just worry that she's got my mum up.

yeah same here seren will sip a bit of milk then refuse to have it all nite but wont settle tidy. she has been in a bad mood all day but has only had the 1 nap so im hoping she will sleep tonight still up at the moment going to try and get her ready for half 8 so i can have my food then im starving today eating all the time. you need to to what makes you happy and if you wont sleep anyway. im happy havin seren around me even if i need the sleep

well i did it. i went out. they nagged and nagged and to be honest i was ready to explode with stress. i have to admit i had a great night. gt a bit drunk and had a laugh. it was good being an adult for a change and have a conversation. didnt get in till 3 but as back up at 9 to go get her and surprise surprise the wee monkey slept the whole bloody night. is seren in a better mood now. what about af any sign.xx

seren is in a much better mood thanks had trouble putting her to bed last nite but she didnt have a nap all day so was over tired but slept all nite for me saddly my af arrived today without any pains but now its here im in alot of pain never not had any signs so strange looks like ill be trying again this month with you when are you due to stop the pill

oh sorry to here that. bloody thing sneaking up like that as well. i finsih pill around the 20th june. sorry maybe tmi but did you come off the pill before ttc. did you bleed for long when you finish or just same as usual.

we started ttc as soon as i finised my last pack and only had a 3day bleed when i finished the pack which was about right for me so im hoping this 1 wont be around too long

i take this be your first proper af. with chloe i didnt get a chance to have a proper one just had withdrawal bleed then fell preg. i used to be so heavy and in a lot of pain which is part of the reason i was taking pill in the first place. you know work is so boring today im dying to go home.

yeah this is my first proper af i used to be heavy and very painfully before i had seren thats how i was on the pill at 15 im lucky i dont have to go to work right now if i did id be really board all the time was such a quiet job most of the time

we quite quiet at the moment. my boss is close to retirment and isnt really doing much to boost the business. i put chloe down about half hour ago but she been wimpering on and off so just wander what kinda night im going to have. i dint sleep at all last night which is just the way isnt it. coz chloe slept all night. im hoping she goes off and i fall asleep. last day at work tomorrow till sat.

seren was fussy going to bed tonight took almost 2hrs again, i hope you do sleep tonight cant be much fun not sleeping and then having to go to work i find it hard enough and dont work but im thinking i might need to just to have some sort of life back would like sometime to be becca not mammy plus i get so board at home all day on my own with seren maybe ill feel better when the sun comes out and we can go to the park more

you kow thats the way i was on sat night. i really thought i was going to sit in corner and worry about chloe (like i usually do when we go out) but i must have really needed to let me hair down coz for those few hours i was me and not mum. feel i need to do it a few more times before falling pregnant. although according to my cousin you let go a little earlier with the 2nd and 3rd.

im hoping i will learn to let go a bit more oh wants to go out for a meal this wk so i think i will go just for a few hrs ill make my mam happy cause she aint babysat for ages and is asking all the time when can she watch seren

thats what my mum and mil are like. i feel like seding her there just for their good not chloe's lol. oh says now that ive donei and relaxed for the first time we ging to the pics in a couple of weeks but i know i probably go through the same thing again. i do wish i could be more relaxed about it. ive got friends who leave there kids regulary to have time out. i just find it so hard.
this might sound like a strange question but what size shoe is seren. im having to much bother getting chloe shoes for the summer. she is a 3 and not showing much sign of growing.xx

seren is in a 4.5 in clarks at the moment im sure the start summer shoes in a 3 there i know they are a little pricey but good shoes. im going to have to go out atleast once a month or ill never leave seren and will never have a social life without her

i think thats the trick isnt it. i suppose the more regular you do it the easier it gets.
i took her into clarks 3weks ago to get doodles and some sandals. she measured her at a 31/2 and then said sorry doodles and sandals dont start till a 4. the only thing she could give me was a wee moccosin type shoe. which was lovely but i got her shoes in startrite only a month or so ago and they still fit so there wasnt much point in buying anything.

thats the only thing about shoes they do mostly start in a 4 im waiting for the sun to stay out b 4 i get a new pair for seren got a pair from asda for now and she loves them so might get another pair for the summer. im going to ask my mam later if she will babysit for me to go out if i do that ill have to go then

yeah you should do that then you cant go back coz your mum would be dissappointed.lol.

i just want some wee shoes that arnt too hot and she can play about in. some wee canvas ones like the doodle but i suppose i will need to wait.xx

sorted out babysitting with my mam for next wk so i have to go now thats the problem with most shoes starting in a size 4 and our little ones being small. seren is fighting goin to bed again tonight doing my head in

hiya. wasnt on last night was really ill. think ive had some sort of tummy bug. either that or its still the hangover.lol

i managed to get chloe some wee shoes today. it was just a wee cheap shoe shop but i figured with them just being soft canvas they cant do much harm. they were only £4.99 so hopefully they do her a few weeks and we can get her measured for going her hols. how did seren settle last night. chloe was up at 3 but screaming about her mouth so we gave her calpol and she was sleeping again in 10mins so wasnt too bad. were you up to anything today.

are you looking forward to going out now that youve taken the plunge.lol

its great that you found shoes for chloe, seren was a pain to put to bed again last night slept 9 till half 12 then up till 10 past 4 and them back up at 7 tried everything but nothing worked i had to go back to the dentist for a filling today and my mouth is killing me they had to pack my mouth so they could do the filling seren had so much fun sitting on my lap watching them thought it would frighten her but she didnt want to leave lol. how was your day off 2day. im really looking forward to going out next wk now didnt think i would

sorry not been on for a couple of days. comp was playing up yesterday. do you know ive had the lazyest few days. ive done hardly anything. not that i could have if id wanted to. chloe been a nightmare really clingy not given me a minute. the only good thing is that she has dropped her morning nap so is sleeping for a good 2 hours in the afternoon. how seren been is she sleeping any better.

when are you offout. anywhere exciting.x

seren has been a total nightmare sleeping the last couple of nights been getting up at around 12 and going back to sleep about 4 and then back up at half 6 has got up twice already screaming so im in for a bad night i think and im on my own tonight too so not looking forward to it tired already. im off out on wed think were off for food or to see a film whatever i fancy cause i get to pick

thats always the way isnt it. last fri nite when oh was out she was a nightmare. tonight however (fingers crossed) she is sound.

do you know its been ages since i was at cinema. oh says we going in a couple of weeks. ive got to go work tomorrow. really tired just now so not looking forward to getting up early. although i should be used to it. chloe was up at 5 thur morn. she sat and watched tv on the bed. oh brought her some fruit and juice she ate it and then at 6 announced she was going sleeps and walked into her room. so i had to put her in cot and she slept till 10. thats after waking the house up.lol

its great they can go to sleep once they have been awake for a little while and we have to stay up cause were too awake. we have only been once this year too c a film so will be a nice change from the tv. were off down my mams caravan for the day tomorrow so the kids can run around on the beach and hopefully they will sleep well then

fresh air should help knock them out.lol think we off for the weekend in a couple of weeks. oh's bestman just moved up north with his new fiancee so we off up for a visit. it be good practice for the run when we go on hol. we got to travel to heysham before we get boat to isle of man. looking forward to it now.

its nice to get away even for a few days were hoping to take the kids somewhere in the school hols cause oh's daughter has just started school and we dont want to mess that up as she is doing so well. when you off on hols

thats when it gets harder to get away isnt it and more expensive. i said to oh that we should take advantage of her not being at school and go outwith the school hols but weve ended up booking for start of august. its just the wat it has worked out with money and stuff. its onlt 9weeks away and cant wait. be nice to be away just the 3 of us and lets oh spend some proper qualilty time with chloe.

thats the thing when we do book to go somewhere ill cost double thats the only prob with oh he only gets to c his daughter everyother weekend and he stays with his mam then so they can see her too so i get left on my own for 2 nights so he can spend the quality time with her then without me and seren getting in the way

its just so hard to please everyone in these situations isnt it. did you have a good weekend. chloe was up all night on friday again. she seems to have something against sleeping on a friday. i had to end up phoning in sick. i was so done in and i was sick in the morning prob due to exhaustion. we went to seaside yesterday afternoon. had fish suppers and ice cream. chloe had a ball it was lovely.

its so hard trying to please everyone we had a good weekend went to my mams caravan sat they kept us all busy running around all day oh spent all day sunday with his daughter cause she wasnt too happy sat with seren calling him dad so me and seren played in the garden. seren is sleeping a bit better now thank god

thats quite hard on seren isnt it. she too young to understand and if she spends so much time with him its only natural she should call him dad. i take it she quite close with you oh. chloe slept through last night so i managed a bit of catch up. she had such a great time yesterday we going to try a take her more when the weather is good.

seren gets on better with oh than her dad she wont call her dad anything but he dont make much effort when he sees her so thats his own fault really im glad you managed to get some sleep i feel so much better now ive had some were hoping to do more with the kids when the weather gets better cant wait to go too the zoo aint been for years lol

you right that is his own fault. they are only going to react to the people who spend the time with them. we are going to try get to the zoo soon and we take my nieces to a safari park most summers so this will be the first year chloe has been. she loves animals so much cant wait to see her wee face. just wish we could rely on the weather a bit more.

i love goin to the zoo so hoping seren will like it she does like most animals so she should. i was out in the garden trying to sort it most of the day will have to go back out today to finish off the big bush but least i have a nice lawn now and a patio for seren to play in tidy for a change

thats what i wa doing last week. trying to sort the garen a bit. its so big and messy we just havent the money to do anything big at the moment. so we are going to edge an area and put some bark and pots in so chloe can play on her shute and stuff. ive done all the weeding and stuff just waiting for oh to do the heavy stuff then i can get it prepared.

i didnt realize how much hard work gardening was been out doing a little bit again today still got one side left to do ready to plant some new flowers went and got seren a set of kids tools she kept taking mine off me she loved it got so dirty but she was happy hows your day been

sounds like she had a ball. today been ok was at work but that me finished till sat. looking forward to a few days off. going to have a couple of days in house or garden depemding on weather thenon friday i usually take chloe swimming. suppose need to pop out at sometime and get something for fathers day.

its going to rain where i live tomorrow so think ill just go to playgroup then play in the house all day and hopefully do some ironing and tidying up too

i started ironing last night but gave up coz chloe wouldnt settle. not upset or anything just decided she wasnt tired. so she was sitting on our bed till 10oclock looking at photos (which is her new hobby at the mo). shouldnt complain coz she slept all night although dont know how lucky i will be tonight coz she been down since 7.45 no porbs that probably means up all night. really need to get caught up on the housework tomorrow i was so lazy last week.

the rain stayed away today so ended up going shopping and had lunch with the girls and their kids so done no cleaning or ironing again today ill have to do some tomorrow im getting over run with the ironing now lol seren went to bed at half 7 last nite woke up at 12 but back to sleep by half 1 then slept till 7 how did chloe sleep for you

sounds like you had a good day so as my mum said the housework can wait till when the weather is bad. i have tried to clear out chloe's room today but got nowhere coz she kept pulling everything back out. she slept great last night. she slept through stirred at 6.30 and must have nodded back off again and woke at 9. so i even managed a cup of tea in peace today before she got up. dont see that happening again.lol

yeah was a good day my mam is the other way she thinks the cleaning should come before playing with seren and going out for the day. i wish seren would stay in bed for me to have a coffee in the morning

hay that was a one off. i doubt it will happen again.lol

chloe only just in bed we were visiting tonight as it my inlaws anniversary. she went down without a fight again so fingers crossed for tonight. she has been a proper handful all day causing mischief and being clingy also not eating great just hope she not in for something. going to take her to clinic tomorrow cause she got problems with constipation.

seren went to sleep without a fight tonight but ive had to go up to her 3 times already seren has been off her food the last couple of days not eaten much but has wanted milk through the night she is always like it when she is teething im hoping she will pick up by the time she has to be weighed in 2 wks im lucky with seren cause she never suffers with constipation cause she is lactose intolerant

i suppose that one good thing. chloe just seems in pain it such a shame. she know she is trying coz she keeps telling me she has pooed but nothing there. i just dont understand how she can be constipated she eats so much fruit and stuff. if i ate fruit like her id never be off loo (sorry tmi lol). what does seren weigh now. im going to chloe weighed tomorrow when im up at clinic.

seren weighed 23lb 10oz last time she was weighed but she wouldn sit still so they said it could be wrong and she will prob be less when she gets weighed next its a pain having her weighed every 4 wks they tell me not to worry but i do if they let her go longer id relax about it think thats why i will feed seren through the night if she asks for it just to make sure she gains enough weight. hope they give something to chloe to help her go its not nice how heavy is chloe

she was just over 20lbs 4 weeks ago. im same having to have her weighed every month. thats why i kept giving chloe bottle as long as she wanted them in the night. at least it was extra food. clinic's on from 2-3.30 so i will pop up later. she did pass this morning but it was pretty uncomfy for her. have you started potty training yet. 2 months ago i had chloe peeing in the potty but then she took a tummy bug and after that refused to sit on it. so we started again yesterday. she hasnt peed in it yet but is sitting on it for longer so heres hoping.

seren hates the potty i got her so im going to get a new 1 the wkend ive been trying for the last month cause she keeps peeing through her pull-ups ill check her 1 min and she is bone dry then she lets it all out in 1 go got to take extra clothes everywhere with me its a pain. how do you get chloe to sit on the potty seren likes to put her feet in hers

i give her a book to read. or sit her in front of the tv. i bring it out of the bathroom to use it then she has to help me put it back just so that she doesnt think of it as a toy. she sat on it again earlier but hasnt done anything yet.

took her to clinic she weigh 21 pound 14 ounces. i was wrong she was just over 21pounds not 20. thats quite a good jump for chloe more than usual. then again up until a week ago she was eating really well. they say that the constipation could be to do with her teeth. she cutting the back ones at the moment. she has to get diluter orange juice (from whole oranges). although one of the mums said that brown sugar works but i want something i can use daily and keep her regular rather than a quick fix. if it keeps up i have to take her to docs.

ill have to try that out got told to leave her play with the potty to get used to it but that aint worked think that has made it worse. thats a good gain seren only does that once in a blue moon

yeah chloe too and then next time i go she gains an ounce.lol. chloe has started holding her nappy when she pees so im hoping she wont be long in catching on. think we going to go swimming tomorrow. try and run out some of the nergy she has been all go for the last 2 days only letting up to sleep.

seren has been holding her nappy for about 2 wks but still likes to pee on the floor dont know what im goin to do tomorrow oh is off work so ill ask him when he gets in

that nice. i like it when oh is off work on a week day. dont know but for some reason the day seems longer than it does at the weekend. i work sat so we only really get sunday together but at the mo oh working some sundays to make up spending money for hols. he has taken this sunday off though so we hoping to do something nice.

were off to a fathers day party at serens playgroup at 4 on sunday and were off to the circus tomorrow night cant wait ill be the first time seren has been

that sounds lovely. they dont do stuff like that around here. they dont even have playgroup anymore just nursery. there are some mother and toddler groups but i dont really go.

ive meant to ask. how long did it take you to settle seren in a bed. thingking of putting chloe's cot into the bed soon. im just a bit worried coz she an awful rumbly sleeper.

i was lucky with seren i set her bed up im her room with her cotbed and we used to sit on the bed have a chat and read and play with her toys then 1 night she wanted to go in the bed not the cot seren moves alot when she is asleep so was very worried she does hit the wall a bit but it dont seem to bother her

has she ever fallen out at all. thats what i worry about. its just that once chloe is awake she is up. she has been up since 6.30am. she wasnt up through the night but was crying on and off really think her teeth bothering her. she a poor wee thing. having a sleep at the mo then we are making fathers day cards.

only once and that was my fault cause i didnt put the bed guard back on the bed once i changed it and it was the first time she wanted to go in there for the night and i didnt think she would stay there. seren was up at 6 today and has only had 1 nap so im hoping she will sleep all night for me

chloe only had one nap as well. and was in bed fast asleep for 7.30. just hope she stays there. saying that its friday and that been a good night for us recently. ive just had a bath and im shattered so going to try and relax and hopefully get a nights sleep.

seren has finally gone to sleep just having some food then im off in the bath for a long soak

enjoy your bath. im just settling down to watch some tv. not that theres much on except big brother.

im sad cause i like big brother

well i was totally addicted last year couldnt turn it off. told myself this year im not getting addicted yet again i find myself watching it. i tell myself i dont like it but just cant help myself.lol. although i dont know how long i can watch it with that alex in the house with her (remember i told you".

she is so pissing me off already i tell myself every year i wont watch it but i always do oh keeps telling me in stuck in a trap lol

its addictive and im sure ill be there till the end. they talking about it on ttc. i was a bit shocked stephanie went.

chloe just let out a wimper but everything seems to have gone quiet again. i sent you a wee request on facebook. hope you dont mind

just sent you a message on facebook dont mind at all. same here didnt think it would be her seren has cried once and gone back off to sleep without me going up to sort her out tonight so im hoping ill stay like that all night

just sent you one back. im just working the thing out. been a member for a while but not good with these things. ive got bebo too coz friends were pestering me to get it. i need to upload some photos

im on bebo too ive only joined them cause my family keep on at me

what your name on bebo i add you on there too. im same cant even use them right as i said but chloe's godfather works on rig and i have friends i dont get chance to see much so that's why i joined. i suppose its quite good to keep in touch.

ill have to check only go on it through my emails

hi it RebeccaJ6500

i will have a look whe i get home cant get bebo to work here.
how was seren last night. chloe was up at 3 asked for her "bo bo" (bottle). which she hasnt done for weeks. i really dont think she is eating enough and is waking hungry. she was up till 4.30am. so im tired but it is an improvment on the last 3weeks

i think i gave the wrong one for bebo think its beckyboopive signed up for so much keep getting them wrong seren slept well last night woke up at half 12 and was back to sleep by 1 and then up at 6. seren aint been eating too good the last wk so think thats why she aint been sleeping

i think i found it. ive sent request so you can let me know if you get it.
im just hoping chloe sleeps tonight. we are off on a day out to the museums in glasgow so i dont want her to be a grump

hi i got it ive added you. i aint got a clue what to do tomorrow serens dad dont want to see her so she will spend fathers day with oh think ill take him for a meal saves me cooking lol

thats a shame. but remember it him that missing out seren obviously happy having your oh around instead. that be nice. we going to go for breakfast then we having dinner at mums i think. chloe went down with a bit of a fight but hopefully that's her.

it is his own fault i got to wait for oh to get home tomorrow before i can do or go anywhere hes out with the boys tonight gone to a dance festival and is totally pissed been texing me all day just to wind me up about how much of a ggo time he is having im lucky seren went to bed no probs tonight

men. they dreadful with a drink in them aint they. its amazing how they can detach themselves from the worries of home. i just cant let go when i go out always thinking about chloe. have you been out yet.

my mam was ill so we took seren with us for a meal she seemed to like it. i texed him first thing to say happy fathers day from the two kids and texed back thanks im still sleeping so ill phone later when i get up men

hi there, i know you are both kind of off the subject now. but just wanted to ask... my 18month lo has always been a great sleeper until the last week or two, totally freaking out when i put her down to sleep and taking forever to fall off to sleep, she just clings on me and when i put her down she screams her lungs out till she falls asleep. i was begining to think maybe i'm putting her down too early or too late? i put her to sleep in the afternoon about 12 or 1 and she goes to bed at 7. she sleeps for about 2 hours or less in the afternoon. any advise? also, when is it appropriate to put them in a bed and out of cot? thanx claire x

hi claire seren has been in a bed since she was 16mths old seren also has a nap around 12 for about 2 hrs and i still put her to bed at 7 most nights if she isnt tired i keep her awake till half 7 still have the odd night of playing up(only just settled down) think its down to teething with seren at the moment as the big teeth are coming through, angielisa told me to try the pickup put down and it works most nights

niamh is 17months and i'd like to progress to the bed but dont want to make putting her down any harder cause she'll just get straight out of bed to her door and cry there, and i dont know if i could cope lol... did you have that problem? did you just keep going in and putting seren down? (is that the pickup put down thing? also there are toys in the bed room do you have to take all toys out? sorry all the questions. does your lo still have night time bottle? i want to get rid of that too , maybe i should do that first and then the bed issue.... there seems like alot of changes going on at this stage as she seems to never want to listen to me anymore!!ever and wines all the time!

seren still has a bottle through the night and yes i keep going in to put seren back into her bed seren still has her toys in her bedroom some nights i have to leave her take 1 into bed but she dont bother with them till the morning. with seren i set up her bed in her room with her cot(she was 14mths) and we would just sit on it and read and play with a few toys and 1 night she just wanted to stay in her bed so i think i was lucky to have no problems with her going into a bed seren never wants to listen anymore think its the age for it lol

hiya. did you go for a meal yesterday. we take chloe out now and again for a meal i think it good for them.

hi claire. uits just so hard to know what to do isnt it. chloe still has a bottle at night although she is now off a bottle and has a sports cap cup thing. i think this not settling thing is a mix between teeth and their age. ive noticed on here most people seem to have this problem around this age.

yeah we went out for a meal seren was happy to watch every1 and loads of kids were there too so felt better when seren had enough sitting in the highchair how did your day go hope you had a good time

we did. had a lovely day. had breakfast at morrisons. then went to the museums chloe had a ball cause it all open and she was free to roam. had dinner with mum and dad last night which was nice. tired today though. chloe was up from 3 until 5 so by the time i fell asleep it was 6 and had to get up at 7 so feel worse for it.

seren was up 12 till 3 last night got to stay in bed till 7 so managed a few hrs thank good she wont go to sleep for me tonight though

we had the opposite problem tonight chloe wanted to go to bed but inlaws came in so i had to keep her up for a wee while but in the end i just apologised and said she needed her bed. she was really tired so i was looking forward to her having an early night and having a soak in a bath. in the end i got a quick dook.lol

had her at docs tonight. she came out in a rash yesterday all up her legs and bum so by 4 oclock my sil phoned to say it had got work. doc reckons its virul could be teething. you know i think thats there answer for everything. doesnt seem to be bothering though.

took me till 9 last night to get seren to settle she must have been hungy drank 16oz to go to seep dont know why cause she stuffed her face all day and eat more than she has been eating. i hope chloe is better soon

she seems ok this morning. you just never know with them do you. maybe seren taking a growth spurt. she in bed early tonight. im exhausted she was up at 4 again this morning.

i finish my pill this week am getting nervous again.

its so exiting and nervous i hope you dont have to wait too long for your bfp i almost missed ov this mth so would have been really pissed off if i had ill be pissed off i think this mth if i dont grt my bfp cause ill have to leave it till aug to try again and i dont like waiting lol. im glad chloe is much better today im hoping seren will go to bed tidy tonight but i dought it she is seeing her dad when she wakes up for her nap so will be im a funny mood with me later on again plus he will have a go at me when he gets here now cause she is still in bed and i wont wake her till she is ready to get up herself sorry for the rant needed to get it out of my sysetem before he gets here

dont blame you. you would think he would want her to be rested so that he can enhoy his time better with her.

i take it you on 2week wait then. if i dont fall straght away i need to wait till sep to try again. coz if i fall in aug it means im due when chloe's godfather is getting married and oh best man and chloe flower girl o cant really miss it. i couldnt believe it when they announced date last week.

he only thinks about himself and thats what gets to me the most. yeah im on my 2ww now but aint due for af till 3rd july so i dont know whats gone wrong this mth i hope you get your bfp first time cause if your like me ill kill you to wait lol

probably ive no patience. keep telling myself im going to chill about it all but i know i'll be symtom spotting the first chance i get.

im always doing that but i have gone up a cup size since i came off the pill so im happy about that

seriously?. i hope i dont go up a bloody cup size.lol. dont know what my body going to do. ive been on pill for so long and my body didnt really get a chance to come off it last time coz i fell preg so quick. really dreading af as they used to be soo bad as i said before.

well chloe was down at 8 and hopefully for the night but i wont hold my breath.

yeah im so happy i liked having big boobs when i was having seren lol i used to get really bad af and pains but was ok light and not that painfull so lets hope you have the same. seren was a pain going to bed again took till 8.45 to settle again

chloe still asleep. wait and see she will sleep through coz i got no work tomorrow. ive dropped a few hours on a sat will only be working half day now which im looking forward to. thats the girl i work with back from mat leave.

you could have my big boobs if you want.lol. i wear 32ff normal size so you can imagine what im like pregnant.

oh my god im only a 36c now was a 38d with seren and thought that was big lol. seren slept all night for me till half 7 so i feel so much better now and o wont feel so bad at playgroup today

lol. i reach 34j with chloe well thats the size my nursing bras were. chloe slept through as well was up at 6 so that was good.

im so chuffed i had to come on and tell you. chloe peed in the potty this morning then when i came back from shopping i sat her on it again and she pood. how sad my life has got that chloe's bodily functions excite me.lol

ur so lucky seren still wont do anything on the potty for me she has been in a funny mood all day so im hoping she will go straight to sleep for me tonight so i can chill for 5 ive had people staring all day and lost my temper with 1 women

hiya did she so down ok. chloe just going down justr now. we been out visiting coz it my nieces birthday so she been playing with them so hopefully they have tired her out.

people are so bloody ignorant. i always walk or look away when i see kids doing that coz i know it could be mine just the same (and many a time is.lol) i really dont know what people think gives the right to say stuff to people or stare.

oh i have to tell you this. i was in the paper shop today and there were a couple crowed round the papers. i was sure i could see them with sissors and they looked dead shifty. i never bothered and went to pay for my stuff and they left the shop. it wasnt til i was paying that i noticed there was a voucher in the sun newspaper for a free meal at subway. this couple were stealing it. the thing is the paper only cost bloody 30p. i cant believe people would do that.lol

yeah only had to go up twice tonight so its getting better i hope. how could they do that sad people out there did chloe go down ok for you after tonight

yeah she down at the moment only thing im worried about is that she refused her bottle so she could be back up in couple of hours for it. i cant sleep so i probably just be nodding off when she wakes.

how did chloe sleep for you last night seren was up twice last night but settled quickly after a bottle thank god was up at half 7

not so good here. she was up at 1am then at 4am then at 5.30am. at 5.30 i took her in beside me and she was up again at 7. im shattered today. i put her down at 10 for a sleep and went for one myself. are you up to anything today we just having a day in the house. weather not very nice here.

ive been food shopping today and just got back in and the water is off and they have made a big hole right infront of my door they are changing the pipe work so now im stuck in the house with no water and 3 men outside lookin in my windows

great that sound like a great day.lol. chloe sleeping again coz she was grumpy but im going to have to go wake her or i will regret it tonight. today has just dragged im looking forward to oh coming intonight its just one of those days when i could do with some company.

same here cant wait till 7 for oh to get home he has to go to his mams for a shower before he gets here cause my water is off till 8 and he gets dirty and smelly lol in work i cant even go for a walk to my friend house cause they have left the hole uncovered and its too big to jump across with seren and the pram

oh usually works till 7 but only working till 5 at the mo so he wont be long then we going to go for some food shopping. there nothing worse than not having the choice to just pop out. should they really be leaving hole uncovered like that. you should complain that they havent left you access.

i asked them to put it back on for me to go for a walk cause seren was fed up staying in the house they should cover the hole up every time they leave my garden they did say sorry

yeah they should. have you got water back yet. weve just been food shopping. so ive put chloe down and im going have something to eat. i just hope she sleeps tonight.

yeah they put it back on by half 6 for me and next door so we could bath the kids and put them to bed seren went down at half 7 and i aint heard her so im hopeing she will sleep all night too cause im so tired and feel really sick and dizzy so cant wait for bed tonight

oooh could be symptoms. well ive just taken my last pill so i am officially ttc.

everything all quiet in chloe's room as well so i keep fingers crossed for both of us.

seren slept all night for me till 7 how did chloe sleep for you

im trying not to symptom spot this mth cause i had a few dizzy spells last mth and with seren sleeping 1 night and then up the next i think thats why i get tired (even though i do think they are sometimes lol)

i bet you cant wait to get started and get your bfp

i get like that. oh always on at me about going to docs but i keep telling him its just that i hardly sit down and then im up and down at night. i dont expect him to get up when he is working.

yeah chloe went all night as well. got up at 8. oh and she asked for the potty so thats got to be a good sign.

im getting excited now. its weird feel a kinda freedom now that i know i dont have to take it anymore. im sure its doing allsorts and making me feel awful.

its so much better not having to take the pill 1 less thing to remember i felt really ill when i came off the pill

seren got her potty out this morning have put her on there a few times but done nothing and she just trickled on the floor but done nothing on the potty bet she is waiting for me to come on here and then pee all over the floor lol just cant get her to enjoy the potty doing my head in a bit in the middle of typing this she started to do a poo and she done it on the potty but cryed when i went to put it down the toilet im so happy now

thats fab. that how chloe started she would sit on it but not do anything. its such a great feeling. the last few days ive felt so proud of her but in a way sad coz i feel that her nappies are the last kinda baby thing she has. they say the poo thing is the hard bit to get them to do. i printed off a reward chart from internet. i just typed in " free reward chart for potty training". we have printed them and stuck it on the fridge now everytime she goes in the potty she asks for a sticker.

thanks ill have a look later for them got a new printer so oh will have to do that for me maybe that will help seren thats what im going to miss she has stayed small like a baby for so long i guess i got to let go sometime

its so hard isnt it but at the same time im kinda excited about her doing new things. anyway hopefully it not be long and we can do the baby thing all over again.

yeah im hoping we dont have to wait too long them we will have more new stuff to talk about

hows your day going u in work today or at home

at home today. had quite a nice day. went into town to meet mum for lunch had a wander round town and then walked home to give chloe a good sleep in pram. going to mums for dinner tonight. oh off fishing for the night so im on my own.

any more luck with the potty. chloe doing quite well again. they had that kandoo foam wash stuff reduced in boots so i got her that now she wants to keep washing her hands.lol

seren is up her dads till 4(he better bring her back at 4) so ill try again when she comes home ive been stuck in all day dont tend to go out if i dont have seren with me so been very board made some cookies and rice crispy cakes for the kids to eat this weekend

im same hardly leave the house when chloe not here. usually go into a cleaning frenzy. i just find it so hard to get things done when chloe around she always clinging to my leg.

yeah serens the same she hates me tidying up always pulls everything back out and she loves to put the clean clothes all over the floor when im sorting them out

chloe does that to.lol. i put all my socks out the washing in a basket then i sort them from there. she spent 20mons yesterday taking them out the basket and putting them back in.

did serens dad bring her back at 4. im off up to mums for some dinner. quite good coz she will want to bath chloe so i get a break.

yeah thank god but seren is flat out now so wont sleep for me later now cause he wouldn put her for a nap

men. they just dont think. its you thats ends up with the grief coz he wants to keep her awake.
chloe down now and ive got peace and quiet coz oh away. its nice to have place to myself sometimes. mum offered to take chloe but i def wouldnt have slept with them both a way. she down at the moment. she really tired and was starting to play up so i put her down. im working in the morning anyway so she got to be up early. is seren down

yeah just gone now so lets hope they sleep so we can both chill out for the night i had to wake her at 5.15 and she cried for an hr and then stuffed her face like never before even took my food which she never does oh is down his mams for 2 nights so ill have peace as long as seren stays asleep

chloe not ate good allday again. im sure she going to loose that big weight gain. she seems sound at the moment so here;s hoping.

are you on comp or do you have a laptop. i just keep thinking about getting one especially at this time of night when i have to sit in spare room.lol

i have a comp would love a laptop can sit on the sofa then be alot better

seren is still flat out so fingers crossed

chloe is too. lol

i so want one. its just drives me mad sitting here. they quite cheap now but still alot of money. maybe see what money we got left after hol. you can buy them on finance deals. about £8 a week but you pay so much back in interest. id rather put the money away every weeks till i had it.

are you watching. bb

yeah got it on im the background
ill try to save some money for 1 cause id be happier then

yeah. think tonight has made up my mind having to duck back and forth during the breaks and stuff.

are you up to anything over weekend. meant to ask how long till you test.xx

were off shopping for shoes for the kids tomorrow and swimming on sunday

not sure when to test cause i aint due till 3rd july but got a pos opk early on cd9 so 23rd would make it 14dpo dont know what to do oh wants me to test then but might wait

are you going to just c what happens this mth or check everything

keep saying im going to just let it happen but i suppose it wont hurt just to count my dates and make sure we bdance then. if it doesnt happen this month i will start checking and stuff. one of the girls who got a bfp this month says they bdanced from cd10-cd22 every second day so maybe try that and see what happens. think oh just looking forward to some action. was just saying on ttc i have a really bad sex drive when im on the pill. poor oh.lol

i lost mine whe i was pg with seren and still dont have much of one now but make more effort when im due to ov oh hates it so im hoping ill go higher for him soon thats what i was going to do this mth but im glad i bd a bit early or i would have missed ov

this is it isnt it its i rekon if you not checking stuff it just pot luck. my sex drive went sky high when i came off the pill last time but i just hope having chloe hasnt ruined it for good. we will soon see. i keep telling oh he should be more understanding but realy its not fair on him. he is patient really. even if he doesnt hide his disappointment well.

men are never good at hiding their disappointment oh is very patient with me but least he gets to bd for 2 wks around ov

lol. they are so easy pleased aint they. im watching katie & peter then im off too bed. got work tomorrow. chloe still sound so here's hoping

seren is sturing so im getting a bottle ready just to be on the safe side then off to bed myself hope seren sleeps all nightso i can have the bed all to myself

well how did last night go. chloe stirred a few times but never actually got up so got a good sleep. im at work today and i cant be bothered.lol

seren was up at 12 till half 4 so im really tired today she is flat out now so im hoping she will stay that way

oh dear. chloe was down at 8. she had a busy day with mum so hopefully she is tired out. did you go for shoes for kids.xx

yeah seren has had the same pair as last time in the next size up from clarks and maddy didnt want shoes she wanted a new rain coat seren was in bed by half 6 only had half hr nap today and has been running around so im hoping she will sleep all night tonight

im going to take chloe just before we go hols. it seems so long since she was measured but she doesnt see to have got any bigger. she still down at the mo and im off to bed and soo tired. no work tomorrow and the weather to be dreadfull so i think that calls for a day in the house.

how did chloe sleep for you last nite seren was up most of the night again so im going to stay in the house and chillout today oh has taken maddy swimming and then he is staying down his mams till she has to go home so he can have father daughter time with her

she she slept good again but im not tempting fate. i got a nights sleep and im still tired when she went down at 10.30 for a sleep i went to my bed..lol we also having a quiet day ive made some soup and ive cooked dinner. oh in soon and we have to nip to glasgow to get my ring back. oh bought for my 30th and the bloody stone fell out so it was away getting fixed. whe we come back im going to climb on the couch and watch bewitched on channel 5 and i intend that to be me for the night. god im so lazy today.

aint had a chance to sleep today my dad popped in just after i put seren down and then we took the kids to the indoor play area

i bet it pissed you off the stone falling out so soon

i watched bewitched too cooking dinner now and then im going to be lazy myself oh going to give me a foot rub

yeah i was pissed and even more now coz when i got to the shop i had been given false info and the ring not even back yet. i was raging.

was just going to get into bed and get an early night but chloe slept in car earlier and now she is back up again not wanting to sleep.

so far so good aint heard seren since i put her to bed watchin big bro then shower and bed for me so tired today really want a good sleep even though i wont feel much better

i would have been screaming at them and demanding they pay for the wasted trip

you know i just didnt have the energy. af is due and i feel ten times worse than ever. i have no energy for anything and just want to cry.lol

chloe finally down so hoping she stays there. im just going to watch bb now then im going to sleep. oh better not start snoring or he is banished to spare room. you know i really dont know what im going to do when i have next baby will have to banish him to the couch.lol

hi how did chloe sleep for you last night seren slept all night thank god plus oh didnt snore so enjoyed my nights sleep

that must have been a novelty lol. i kicked oh into spare room. had a great night sleep with the bed to myself. it was great.

i have just pulled a jigsaw out of the cupboard that i got for xmas years ago and im going to have a go at doing it. its going to my chill out thing as long as i can keep it away from chloe.

seren would never let me do a puzzle she likes to do them all the time but aint happy with the ones for her age she likes big girl puzzles lol

i only have a 2 bed house so cant kick oh out of bed plus he dont fit on the sofa he is too tall

how did chloe sleep last night seren slept all night again but i got up twice to c if she was ok aint happy cause my body must think its normal now to get up in the night lol

this is the problem. your body gets into a routine. chloe was up from 1.30-3am. not good. she ended up sleeping with me which isnt like her so something must have been wrong.

hi hows thing aint been on for a few day had some family probs

sory to hear that. things ok except chloe slept fpr 2 1-2 hours today and now wont go to sleep. it my own fault i should have woke her but to be honest im so tired just now (af really bad for some reason) i just left her. i put her down again about 5 mins ago and im hoping thats her. hows thing with you.

seren wouldnt sleep till just gone 9 again and was back up 2 till 3 and then up at 6 how about chloe

hope af goes away soon for u i hate bad ones they take so much out of you

ive had a good chat with my step dad about whats going on and he is happy for me to walk away from his side of the family for what they are doing to me and seren

yeah chloe done ok. slept through till 8.30 after we finally got her down. i put her down at lunchtime today and bit earlir thatn usual. it didnt used to affect her whatever time she napped but obviously its now making a difference.

feeling a bit better today but it so heavy (sorry tmi) feel constantly lightheaded. im gald im not on pill anymore coz im sure it the problem. if i hadnt been coming off it i would need to have got it changed.

glad you sorting your probs out. family problems are so stressful.

i think seren will sleep tonight only had half hour sleep in the car on the way to shopping and went to sllep as soon as i put her down tonight thank god cause i feel dizzy today think af is turning up early this mth

family probs do my head in and its worse cause serens dad is making them worse plus i got told today my grandad has a tumor on his liver but have to wait 2 mths for the op to find out if its cancer so were all down today

so sorry to hear that hun. its always hard getting new like that. we went through it recently with my gran. she on the ment now thank goodness. tumour was in her womb. turned out to be non cancerour lets just hope you grandad the same.

that a shame about af. lets hope its bfp for us both next month if not i have to wait till sept to try again

i got to wait till aug myself now anyway so least i can chill out and not stress about ttc for 1 mth

im glad ur nan is on the mend im hoping we get good news as my great nan only died last mth and it hit my nan hard so she could do with good news

these things always come at once. hopefully you find out soon. maybe just as weel leaving till aug as you say youve enough on your plate. ive just been in to chloe but seems to have went down again after a cuddle.xx

hi hows things today seren was up again at 2 and then at 6 how did chloe sleep for u

some good news on my grandad they have got an earlier opp date so will be having it in 4wks now just hoping its going to be good news now they are the onlt set of grandparents left now and would like seren to grow up knowing them

af is here and im in so much pain today hope your feeling better than you were yest

hiya. left you a wee message on your other post. yeah im feeling much better today thanx. although its still really heavy and no telling when it will stop coz it usually stops when i start taking pill.

chloe was up at 11 went back down after 30mins but never really settled although she wasnt actually up she cried on and off through the night and then was up at 5. ive just had my gran up for lunch i was supposed to be going there but she gets so fed up bening stuck in the house. ive got my nieces coming for dinner tonight as well so busy day for me.lol

that great news about your grandad. i really hope its good news for him.xxx

just read the message thanks im really heavy this mth was light last mth so think thats why

ive got serens dad in the house for a few hrs cause she wont go with him again cant wait till 5 for him to go

that must be quite uncomfy for you him hanging around especially feeling like you are.

ive just put chloe down. i hope not but i think she might have chicken pox. she woke up this morning with a spot on the side of her nose. quite pronounced with a wee head on it. then tonight 2 more have appeared they are very small but def spots. this is the last thing i need.

i hate having him here but i have to leave him see seren for 6 and half hrs wk cause thats all he wanted when we went to court in feb lucky he knows what im like when af is here so he leaves me alone and dont say much to me

seren aint had chicken pox yet, poor chloe and you if she has got it dont know if i should let her catch it now and leave ttc for a while or wait till she is a bit older ive never had chicken pox does that matter do you think

thats what i was just talking to a friend about. my sister was down today and she only 12weeks preg and im worried now (coz we 90% sure she got them). friends reckons it should be ok if she has had them which she has but as far as i know if you havent had them they quite a risk to preg women. well if it is a least it out of the way before i ttc.

when i was 10wks pg i came into contact with some 1 who had chicken pox and mw told me that it was ok cause the spots had already come out im hoping some1 i know has it so i can take seren before we try again in aug its already been around here a few wks ago and i had to hide just incase how is chloe today hope she aint to bad

well its not chicken pox dont know what the bloody hell it was but it gone now. was kinda hoping it was get itout the way. although i read that would be immune anyway coz i had them when i was small. checked nhs direct coz i was worried bout my sister but they reckon as long as you have had them you should have built up immunity. it would be better for you if seren took them before you fell preg.

well done my first half day started at 1 and just bout finished feel better for it i have to say. how's you.

im doing better today no pain im so happy about that bit peedoff with oh ex cause she is trying to cause probs now she wants oh there every night till his daughter goes to bed at about half 8 and to have her every wkend so we have been talking alot about things today cause its not going to be fair on us not spending any time together and my head is spinning now

glad your finding it better only doing half days on sat get to spend more time with oh and chloe that way

im going to try to get seren to catch them so maybe ill catch them this time ready to ttc in aug

sorry to hear that. why does she want him there so much does she not realise he has a life with you now.

yeah it be good if she got them saying that my mum tried that with me and i still never got them till i was 12.lol

i felt so much better last night. usually on a sat night im washed out especially if chloe hasnt slept but i felt good. prob coz sat such a long day.

i think she is just trying to push us apart cause she aint in a relationship now and i think she wants him back ive said this for mths

ive never been able to catch chickenpox hows your wk been had any nice sunshine where you are we have had a little today hoping for more tomorrow

i take it she was in a relationship before. it a shame people get like that when they on there own.

yeah work quit good just now. it end of the month so lots to do to keep me busy which i like coz the days fly past. weather dreadful here been raining for about 5 days on and off. just hope it brightons up before i finish on wednesday. how things with you.

things aint too bad my end today my ex is still shit sturring but i dont care now cause he cant have anything better to be doing feel sorry for his oh if he spends most of his time trying to get to me through my family she dont know what she is getting herself into with him

im hoping the summer will get here soon getting fed up staying in the house all the time

i left a message on ttc for you i put weight on but does seem to be going a bit now though but boobs r still growing so happy about that lol

your right it is his problem and you should just ignore him. some people have nothing better to do with their time.

just hope it goes down soon i was just starting to ge the last of the weight off. im still carrying a little from having chloe. just hope these bloody boobs dont grow.lol

im still carrying half a stone from having seren really finding it hard to lose the last bit plus i put a bit extra on when i went back on the pill

thats about what im carrying now about 8 pounds but i was carry just over a stone and ive managed to loose half a stone and was hoping to get the other halff off before i fall again. i out so much wait on when i was preg (4stone) i dont want that happening again. i think the pill has always made me a little heavier so i was hoping it would come off now but this bloating is just uncomfy.

i put alot on with seren i went up to a size 18 from a 10 i think i only lost the weight cause i never had much time to eat cause seren was always feeding. im glad im not bloated any more just got af pains without af now my body is playing tricks on me again i think hows things with u today

hi im sam my son is 2 in august an has only jus started to sleep thru i tried everything even tha bath time stuff wit lavender i found getting him asleep wit me on the couch an waitin for 15 mins til he was asleep then taking him up to bed then closing the door and switching the light off helps i was so tired with him getting up an now im so tired because my sleep pattern has totally changed i also put his bottle right by his side so if he duz wake up its ther n he falls bk asleep gud luck to you hun i hope she sleeps soon

thanks im hoping she will start to sleep tidy soon im so tired all the time i keep getting told she will grow out of it when she is ready

i keep hoping that with chloe.lol. although cant complain getting about 5 days out of 7 now.

its really is horrible all this bloody coming off the pill. im still bloated my boobs are swollen and sore again. honestly i dint remember this last time round. you should see my stomach its bigger than i was at 5 months im sure of it. havent even eaten that mcuh today. driving me daft.lol

im hoping all the probs we get from coming off the pill is over with now can fit into my size 12 now without being really tight my belly was so big last wk before af i did look pg lol had a few looks off the family

think my mum was looking at me weird tonight. she offered me wine and i knocked it back. i dont want her to come out and ask me if i am coz i dont think i could keep it form her that we are ttc but i really dont want anyone to know. i bought some herbal water tabs today to see if they help. they usually help for my af so heres hoping.

ive never thought about water tabs if i bloat up this mth ill take them i think my step dad is catching on a bit cause he cought us talking hte other day but he aint come out and said it just little things like be nice to have another grandchild around soon hey

not very discreet then ay.lol. so far the bloating seems a little better today. been out for the day. went to get chloe measured for shoes and she is finally a size four so i got her some doodles and im taking her on friday to get her some shoes coz clarks didnt have much in her size so i will take her down to startrite and get her some. have you been up to anything today.xx

hi we just went to playgroup then for lunch in town seren has been in a bad mood for days just screams off and on all day so we have been hiding in the house most of the time terrible twos starting already. i got to take seren back soon cause they said she wont be long for a 5 and half we dont have a startrite near us so i dont get much choice she is always having the same pairs getting fed up would like something different for a change off food shopping now do you have anything planned for today. x

nothing planned for the day. the weather is soo bad we have had really heavy rain all morning and some thunder and lightening as well. chloe has been a right grump the last couple of days as well. not sleeping great either. think we must be due for another tooth. done my food shopping last night glad now coz i dont fancy having to go when the weather like this. chloe just up was down at 1030 (probably coz she not sleeping good). so we off to have some lunch.x

hi sorry not got back to u sooner had things going on hows things with you

yeah everything good. got a full nights sleep last night so thats the first this week. just put chloe down for a nap so going to chill for a hour. how things with you.xx

things are getting a bit better everything keeps happening the same time oh got a wk off now so be nice for us all to spend more time together

that be nice. i cant wait for oh to get his hols. he is working all the time just now to save for hol. we away for the weekend to visit friends on the 25th so cant wait for that. glad things are sorting themselves out. think im ovulating at themo but chloe go cold so dont know how much bd we will manage.

were off for a long wkend with the kids on the 25th too going to my mams caravan. we wernt going to try but we got carried away yesturday oh mam took the kids shopping while we relaxed im her house and now i got a pos on the opks so guess im on my 2ww again was hoping to relax this mth lol its our own fault

lol. wait and see this be the month it happens when your not trying. aw well we be on our 2 week wait together then. think i ov round the weekend going by dates and was getting ov pains as well. so here's hoping coz we cant really try next month.

we can symptom spot together this mth then so far nothing lol hope we do get bfps this mth saves stressing again

it is stressful isnt it. its the not knowing that gets me. i dont think it a symtom as im too early but this morning i have a heavy feeling in the bottom of my stomach and down into my pelvic area. you dont have any ideas do you. is it maybe just to do with ovulating. i might post on ttc to see if anyone knows. its a wee bit uncomfy when i first go to sit down.

not really sure be a good idea to post on ttc i hate not knowing hows chloe been sleeping for u seren slept 9 till 8 last night feel reallt bad today now though

i posted on but didnt get much help. seems to come and go. chloe really not been good last couple of days. she has just cut another big tooth. yesterday her temp was through the roof and she go cold symptoms. seems better today though. its funny how the more sleep we seem to get the worse we feel.lol. i took her to clinic last week and saw a new doctor about her excema (it been really bad recently). when i pulled up her vest the doc said "ooh she has an umbilical hernia". can you believe that i have asked numerous hv and docs about her bellybutton coz it has really protrouded from birth and they always told it was fine "just and outie". luckily it isnt an issue coz where it is and the fact it soft they say it will probably dissappear by the time she 5. how have you been.xxx

not too bad seren has had me up and down the past 2 nights think im getting a cold feel freally drained more than usual seren has a runny nose so maybe a tooth is about to appear.

thats strange how no 1 else picked it up before seren has a outie belly button but think thats cause her cord fell off when she was a wk old

yeah always thought it was just an outie but it really sticks out. you can actually see it in some clothes. it she eats alot (which isnt often.lol) it really sticks out. problem is she has found it and keeps pulling and saying "whats this".lol. chloe has been a nightmare for 2 days. one of her big bottom teeth is pushing through and the poor wee thing is in so much pain. whe do you test rouhgly cant remember if i asked you or not. think i test round about the 22nd. im trying not to look into my symtoms too much just in case it just the pill playing havoc. ive had a stitch like pain in my side on and off for 2 days and my boobs are sore. so dont know. i feel quite relaxed about the fact that i might not be this month its just the not knowing that really annoys me.lolxx

af is due 23rd so we will be testing around the same time aint reallt had aint symptoms this mth just feeling sick on and off and a few dizzy spells but think thats just me. seren has now got a full blown cold coughing and sneezing and she is feeling sorry for herselffinally gave in for a nap so i can have 5 to myself and sort the rabbit out

aww poor wee sole. it so horrible when they like that. chloe was up again last night. she really tired in the mornings just wish she could catch up on her sleep. it a shame coz ive had to wake her the last 2mornings. yesterday we went away pram shopping with my sister and today im working. think it all catching up with me as well im so tired today. really need a full nights sleep. most of the time i cope fine with it but every now and then it just catches up.

yeah i know what you mean about it catching up on you think im getting the cold seren has been feeling really rough tonight had a long bath after food and am ready for bed but the rabbit has other ideas i cant catch him to put him back in his hutch poor thing loves being out when seren is in bed. when seren cut her first big teeth she had 2 within a wk and then a little break before the other 2 and it was a total nightmare for a while

how many teeth she got now. feel as if chloe's are taking forever. at this rate she will be teething till she is 3. my firends have a rabbit and chloe adores it. they offered it to us but im really not good with things like that. i feel so sick this morning probably down the lack of sleep.lol. she was up again last night. then on the way into work this morning she announces from the backseat "im tired".lol. told her if she slept all night she wouldnt be tired.

seren still only has 11 teeth they just dont want to come out she had me up from half 11 till just after 5 so tired today and she is now playing up and wont have a nap and her dad will be here soon to get her and he wont let her sleep up there so she will be up late again tonight and he will blame me again and it aint my fault i had to babysit for a friend and she wont sleep when her little boy is here hows work going today

yeah work ok. im a bit bored. ready for home. chloe the same wont sleep if i have people in. she doesnt sleep much at my sil's either so she usually grumpy on a monday and a tuesday. think it because my nephew is their. she scared she misses something and also sil doesnt have a cot or anything so she has to sleep in pram.

hi hows things seren has been a tolal nightmare today is still awake now and is screaming at me if i try to get her to go to bed aint got a clue whats goin on with her right now hows chloe been for you and how you feeling about testing next wk

hiya. must be something in the water. chloe was a nightmare last night as well. she was up from 2-6 and wouldnt go to sleep. i tried just giving her a cuddle and putting her back in cot but by the time the 15th time had come i was so tired and im so lightheaded just now i had to give up and let her lie beside me. put her in cot at 630 asleep and she was up again at 8. so today im feeling bloody awful.

was thinking during week i was getting preg symtoms but to be honest i think its just af now. time will soon tell.lol

i finally got seren settled at half 12 then cleaned the livingroom so got to bed at 1 and seren was back up at 4 but went to sleep within 10 mins and back up at 8 but got such a bad head today cant wait to go to sleep tonight.

still dont have any symptoms so ill just wait and c what happens next wk if no af by thus ill test cause im going away for the weekend and would need to know so i can have a drink

hiya. well chloe has been a proper grump allday. although after her sleep this afternoon (i joined her) she seems a bit better. hasnt eaten a thing all day though.

i have been having light cramps allday so im setting myself up to accept a bfn this month. im sure af in on her way. im same about next weekedn want to know either way at least that way if im not i can enjoy a drink.xx

seren slept for almost 3 hrs today i couldn go cause my friend popped in for a coffee would have been a good nap for me too

still no signs of af or bfp so its a waiting game now

thats always the way aint it. usually when chloe sleeps that long my phone keeps going or something disturbs me.

im so tired today. cramps have stopped now. god i really hate this waiting ive got no patience.lol

same as me i hate having to wait for anything had my birthday stuff a wk early cause i kept on at oh and he cant keep secrets

lol. thats a bit like me.

chloe staying out tomorrow night with iains mum. getting nervous again. trying to pack her bag but i end up putting so much stuff in "just in case".lol

ive never left seren sleep out for the night think ill have to start doing it so i can get some sleep im already starting to do the bags for next weekend cause ill forget something if i dont do them now.

just put my new rug in the wash seren got food all over it so in hoping it will be ok it said it can be washed so fingers crossed

seren has finally given in and gone to sleep only had to go up 6 times and taken half hr thats the best its been for over a wk how about chloe

i need to do my packing for next weekend. going to start sunday and then as soon as we back its only 1 1/2 till hols so need to start packing straight away. cant wait to get away. just hope if i get bfn that af turns up so that i know what happening.

chloe went down not bad tonight. only been in once but we see if she goes the night. hope so i could really do with catching up. just hope i can relax tomorrow night and get some sleep.xx

i think your lucky getting away twice so close together id love to go away for a bit or even move away right now.

im hoping seren will sleep all night got a busy day tomorrow and dont want to feel like crap

hiya. we only managing to go away twice coz we going to friends and it not costing anything. going to get chloe measured for flower girl dress. but looking forward to getting away all the same.

how did your night go. we got a full nights sleep. just got to hope she does the same for mil tonight.xx

seren slept till half 5 so not too bad hope your having a good night and hope you get a good sleep and try not to worry about chloe too much

hiya. trying to chill. just got a text to say she down ok. we went for adrive in the car and went to the seaside and got fish and chips it was nice. just going to settle down and watch some tv. hopefully get some sleep.lol

hope you have a good evening be off to bed soon seren is fast asleep so goin to make the most of it

i dont believe it but i actually managed to sleep. prbably exhaustion.lol. and chloe slept allnight it always the way aint it. are you up to anything taday. we having a day in the house. im sorting through chloe's old chloe trying to decide what to keep and what not to. i did want to keep everything but to be honest the ceiling going to cave in with the weight of the boxes.

well af due today and still no sign so im no further forward.

glad you managed to sleep. i keep trying to sort out serens toys and clothes out and i never get rid of much just a few each mth but then i go get more so end up in the same boat.

still no af for me aint got a clue what was happening to my body but seems to have stopped now.

i stayed in the house most of today just werent im the mood to do anything but went to the park for an hr at half 4 to feed the ducks and have a run around for an hr with the kids oh is going to tidy up tonight cause ive hurt my arm so i get to be lazy

it good to have a rest. oh been good today as well when i got up this orning he had hung out the washing before going to work. got a load of stuff cleared out but my cousin gave me loads of stuff on sat so that will just fill the space again.lol

seren is playing up wont go to bed for me again so we have to tidy up later on now cause she loves making a mess

keeping my fingers crossed chloe down without a fight. we see how long she stays there. although we were at my sil's tonight so hoping that tired her out.

im back in work tomorrow but only for 2 days then off for 8 days cant wait. are you looking forward to going away at the weekend.

i cant wait to go away for the weekend just hope my cold goes by then how about you be nice to be somewhere different for a change

seren has been sleeping through the night but think thats only cause she plays up till about half 10 its oh fault cause she went to bed great for me when he slept down his mams with his daughter

it strange how the littlest things unheave them aint it. chloe was up last night but not for too long. i cant wait to go away but do you not feel as if you moving house i have so much stuff for chloe "just in case".lol

yeah it is like moving house ive got my mam taking somethings down with her on thurs ready for us on fri cause we dont have a big car. im still trying to think of things to pack and she arleady has atleast 2 outfits for each day.

have you tested yet i tested monday and bfn then last nite af got me again so here goes for next mth atleast i can drink now

im same 2 outfits for each day. vests coming out my ears.lol. think it be worth it. can wait to get away. didnt even bother to test this morning coz i can just feel af on its way. im actually ok about it. thought id be upset coz i had been late a there was a bit of hope but im not so that good. going to have to sit next month out but coz of friends wedding so hopefully sep be our month.

fingers crossed we both get a bfp soon i hate waiting for it to happen think its because i didnt try on seren she just happened.

my mam is going to laugh at me later on when i take stuff down ive got coats, wellys, jumpers, sun hats, raincovers ive got everything just to be on the safe side its been nice the last 2 days and they have said it going to be nice till next wk where were going but in not taking their word for it cause they always get it wrong lol

yeah us neither, didnt really think about it with chloe i just happened. been trying to get everything sorted. im scared we wont have room fro everything in the car. oh going to have a fit when he sees what im taking.lol. ive got a piercing headache this afternoon andcant get rid. the weather is so heavy.xx

hi sorry i didnt reply was busy sorting everything out we had a lovely time away i got a bit of a tan and kids loved it we took them to a play farm and seren got to feed some lambs and loves looking at all the other animals how bout you did you have a good time wont be too long and you will be off again lucky you would love to go again

we had a lovely time thanks. my friends live on a country estate in the middle of nowhere. they have cows and sheep right at their back fence and they have horses too. chloe had a ball. so much freedom that we cant give her here. we had such a chilled out time and i wasnt allowed to help with anything so i had a big rest.lol. cant waitt o go away again. be nice just to be us this time round.xxx

same here my mam wouldnt leave me help her. oh is thinking of getting our own caravan now so we can go anytime and not have to worry about the kids making a mess

i think they are fab things. the friends we stayed with are away to buy one this week. i would love one. how seren sleeping. chloe been up and down. screamed for 2 hours last night before she settled but did sleep all night so at least i got some sleep.xxx

serens been a nightmare she wont go to bed in the night taking me till about half 10 and is still up and down all night but will sleep from 5 till 7 so i can get a bit of sleep im the morning she has been very grumpy the last few day and is screaming in my face and last night i told her no so she went and got my bettyboop figures and smashed them i wanted to cry but just went upstairs cause i didnt want to lose my temper with her plus i had a house full when she done it hows things with you

how do they always know how to play us. chloe been a nightmare too as we speak she is in cot screaming the place down. i have no idea what is wrong with her and the best about it is she is shattered and so am i.lol. i was hoping to have her sleeping better before we go on hol coz i think if she wakes she is going to be even worse coz she is in the same room as us.the joys aye.lol

seren has been very quiet today and been wanting cuddles off me all day she went to bed tidy for me tonight at half 8 its nice to have some time with oh

that good you got some time to yourself. chloe fought a bit but ddi go all night so not that bad. at work today. just got tomorrow to work 1/2 day then im all done for a fortnight it cant come quick enough.xx

i bet you cant wait to go on hols now seren has been in a good mood today dont know how cause she was up 1 till half 5 and we had to get up at 7 to go out today just hope she sleeps tonight for me cause oh is away for 2 nights again really want a bigger house now getting fed up of it

hi sorry its been so long. i was so busy before hol trying to organise us. we got back yesterday. it was good to sleep in my own bed last night even though the hol was great. only problem being is that chloe has now got used to sleeping in the same room with us so last night and this afternoon was a nightmare. we did pick up put down this afternoon and hoping we can follow it into tonight and try and get her routine sorted before i have to go back to work. how's things with you.xx

things have been good seren has a fifi quilt on her bed now and sleeps all night for me still get the odd night but she settles back down in 2 hrs

glad you had a good hol and hope you do get chloe to settle back into her normal routine soon

ha its amazing how a wee insentive like that helps the cause. fingers crossed chloe seems to be settling back into routine. she was only up once last night and was back down within half hour and today when i put her for her nap she went first time.

we went to the sealife centre today and she had a great time just a shame we both have to go back to work next week.

thats good that chloe is settling well for you i havnt been anywhere just been up my friend house with her she is 5 days overdue and ive been giving her a hand with her little boy and doing the cleaning she is so swollen

well im back at work today. really didnt want to come back but needs must. how your friend any sign of baby yet.xx

thats the only thing with having time off you have to go back my friend had her baby last night little boy 7lb 11oz i so want 1 now really want to see him but i got to wait till she comes home too far to go with seren plus 3 buses seren wont be happy doing that

aww how lovely. hopefully she get home soon so you can see him. nothing like a baby to make you even more broody.

well chloe got chicken pox and it def not a false alarm this time. she actually ok. not got too many spots and just a little off colour. so im hoping weve got it quite lucky and that be it over with.xx

sorry to hear that chloe has chicken pox seren still aint had it

ive been to see the baby twice now and i cant wait to have another 1 now just wish it would happen now on mth 5 now so really getting fed up of waiting how bout you when do u start trying again after your break

luckily chloe seems to have coped fine with the chicken pox she only has a few spots although she is really off and grumpy and yesterday seems to have caught a cold so she not sleeping great.

we might need to wait another month or so before we try again. my boss is selling business and i need to wait to see if i have a job.

poor chloe im dreading seren getting them

bet your fed up now oh has just been told they need to get rid of one of his team and his new boss dont like him so could be him things always go wrong at the wrong time

you so right. these things always happen at wrong time. although oh says i should say on with new people and we can keep trying then i can just take my mat leave and not come back. so we waiting so see what happens when my boss finishes up.

hows chloe today hope she is feeling better

they should keep you on cause you know what your doing and it saves them time in the long run

ive been talking to my friend who is a manager in the local kfc where i used to work and she said she is happy to take me back on when im ready to go back to work and ill have flexi hrs so wont be away from seren too much and new baby whenever that happens

that be good. be good for you as well to have some time to yourself. oh has taken chloe out for an hour. fell out with him last night. i wanted to do my exercise dvd (trying to loose weight for bil's wedding). he said he would take chloe upsairs and keep her occupied for a while but he cme downstairs and she cried coz he tried to take her away again so i ended up abondoning it. he hopeless. so i think he trying to get im my good books by offering to take her with him tonight.lol

men never can do things right lol oh is total like that i try too cook dinner and he sends seren in to me all the time does my head in.

im trying to lose a few pounds so if i catch soon i wont have to worry about my weight too much been doing loads of walking too my friend house takes about an hr to get there so try to do that twice a wk and i dont drive so if i do need to go anywhere i walk

yeah thats part of the reason im trying to loose as well. i put on loads last time so want to get as much off as poss. i need to start walking more but i hate walking round our village everyone so bloody nosey. i try to go out with oh as much as poss when walking the dog but he usually does it after dinner so it depends on how grumpy chloe is.lol

im lucky with seren as long as she is out of the house she dont care how far we go or what we do.

i took seren to be weighed she only put 9oz on in 10 wks i was so worried they would say something bad but they were so nice to me not like my hv we sat and had a chat about seren and her eating and they are happy with her cause she is so active and dont stop its so sad my friends 9mth old is almost the same weight as seren and he dont eat that much hows things with you

yeah ok. same prob as you though chloe only put on an ounce in 6weeks. she is now 22 pounds and 9 ounces. my hv says the same. because she is so active and all in proportion they say she fine. doesnt stop me worrying though. i think some hv's are over cautious and go to much by the weight charts all babies are different. just when you say that about your friends wee boy. there was a wee boy weighed just after chloe last week and he was about 9months and weighed 24pounds. i suppose its nice that she is petite im getting so much wear out of her clothes.lol

that is one good thing only problem is all serens 12-18 mth clothes are for the summer so i have got to go get some more for this bad winter i dont mind cause i love shopping plus seren has got really tall all of a sudden but all her clothes fall down and cant get a bet anywhere

im quite lucky at the mo. chloe's 9-12 trousers still fit so they ok at the waist but her 12-18 trousers fall down. i found some pink braces which i thought i could put on under her jumpers just to try and keep the trousers from falling down.lol. my mum got her some wee jeans from m&s which had a belt with them so ive taken it off and i use it with most of her stuff now. imsame as you will need to go get some winter stuff. yeah and the shopping bit shouldnt be a prob.lol.

i was in clarks today and they have got the most gorgeus wee boots i cant wait to get her a pair.xx

im quite lucky at the mo. chloe's 9-12 trousers still fit so they ok at the waist but her 12-18 trousers fall down. i found some pink braces which i thought i could put on under her jumpers just to try and keep the trousers from falling down.lol. my mum got her some wee jeans from m&s which had a belt with them so ive taken it off and i use it with most of her stuff now. imsame as you will need to go get some winter stuff. yeah and the shopping bit shouldnt be a prob.lol.

i was in clarks today and they have got the most gorgeus wee boots i cant wait to get her a pair.xx

im off to clarks tomorrow to get serens feet measured again i want a nice pair of boots for the winter

managed to get oh to take me shopping for clothes for the kids too so ill have a great day ill have a look for something with a belt on for seren too ehile im out

hiya. did you get anything nice today. you know i think i get more excited buying stuff for chloe than i do for myself. i was having a look in town after work today and the winter stuff is so lovely. i cant wait to get her a new coat. i really think i have a jacket fetish.lol. got a wee bit of news today. i think my boss might be keeping just me on to help with the admin of the other part of the business he is keeping. its not def yet but im keeping my fingers crossed.xx

didnt get anything today seren was up all night last night and oh werent here to help me so we were both tired and when we tried to go shopping she screamed got so many looks we came home. i love going shopping for seren hate going for myself i get board looking for me where as seren i can shop for hrs lol

thats great news lets hope it does happen how long till you find out if you will be kept on

nothing worse than shopping when they are having a bad day.lol. chloe seems to hae one everytime we in supermarket. she ok going round the shops but when she in the trolley she just doesnt like to sit. i end up feeding her raisins and anything else i have in my bag just to keep her occpied.lol.

my boss hasnt mentioned me staying yet. it was the guy i work with said he had mentioned it to him that he thinks he will still need someone to do adminso im hoping to drop a hint in conversation today and see if he bites.

i got my fingers crossed for you

seren is feeling alot better today has eaten a bit better thank god seren is only happy if she is eating in the trolly she loves apples but can eat 3 while were there

chloe still not eating. she is driving me mad. she has lost more weight and there is no way im going bak to the clinic till i can see that she gained. she was awake most of the night last nigh. not crying just kept squirming around trying to get back to sleep and im so sure it coz she ot eating and is hungry. i ended up giving her milk at 5am and she got some sleep then.at the moment the only plate she clears is spag shapes. as long as its bob the builder/thomas or fifi.lol

yeah im really hoping for the job. ive excepted one with the new people yesterday but hoping i can stay where i am.

seren loves the pasta shapes thats normally the only thing i can get down ive started giving seren omega 3 drops and multi vitamin drops in her milk every other day to go to bed cause im so worried about her not eating even though they keep telling me its ok that she dont eat most days

that not a bad idea. i might have a look. i think its easy for other people to say. "oh she's fine" its us having to go through the day worrying that they havent ate anything.

im hoping to find out about job today or tomorrow. hopefully we will be able to try this month thats if af ever turns up. all the syptoms are there coming and going but she just wont come on. the month i could do with getting it over and done with and she has gone in to hiding. bloody pill.lol

thats so true it is use that stresses about it

i hope they tell you sooner than later

ive been lucky with my periods they have been 16 days after ov so i know where i am even if im going to have a longer cycle

i really should have kept a better not of ov. i thought it was cd14-18 but i know it was round the end of my hol and coming home so when i counted dates it was probably cd18 - 22ish so i think that probably why. ive never had such long cycles its weird. anyway she is def showing signs today just got to wait till she comes on proper.

hope af turns up soon so you know where you are then plus i hope its good news about the job today

still dont know about job. af turned up so at least one thing out the way.

we just back in. it oh's gran's 80th tonight so we were at a family gathering. so im hoping chloe is washed out and will sleep the night.xx

atleast you know where you r with af now lets hope they tell you about the job before ov

seren was good last nite slept 12 till 7 so im happy how did chloe sleep for you

yeah ok. she has been quite good since she got over chicken pox and stuff. although she is waking at 5 but as soon as you bring her through she curls up on our bed and goes to sleep. does seren still sleep much during the day.?

should find out about job tomorrow. need to coz if my boss not keeping me on i start with new guy on monday. if i go with new guy we going to wait till xmas to try again. can you believe xmas is just around the corner. i am so excited about this year they are at such a good age.xx

seren still has a 2hr nap at 1 everyday

i cant wait till xmas ill have 2 running around this year with ohs daughter

not sure if we should stop soon as my bro just decided he is getting married next aug and want me to be a bridesmaid and dont know if i should have a big belly, all my family keep telling me i need to have another baby soon and none of then know were ttc dont know if i should tell them we are

oh hun maybe you should keep that to yourself you dont want the added pressure. i found out today that im def going with the new people but my boss has told me they have to take me with my years of employment but i still think im going to wait till xmas to try again. just so that im settled. me and oh where talking about it last night and we want to get house sorted first.

atleast you know where you r now though and you will be able to keep track of your cycles

me and oh have to look for a new house this one is too small for us all and its a pain him having to go to his mams every other weekend and if she wants to stay during the week so he can have his daughter

i think i will hold off telling them as long as i can ill wait for the wedding plans to get more sorted

hiya. yeah im a bit more settled now i know what's going on. i will keep a better track of what going on and at least it will give my body time to settle off the pill. not that ill be going back on it.

are you getting married soon. my bil get married in 5 weeks im trying to get into a dress i already have. doing ok for a couple of weeks now so hoping i will do it. either that or im off out to buy something new.

not getting married anytime soon oh is still married cause she wont sign the papers even though she is in a new relationship now im hoping he will as me as soon as they are cause im 27 now and woild like to get married at some point.

ive never understood why people hold back like that. if its over then its over you all might as well be able to get on with life.

well i think im unemployed. i told the new boss im not taking the job so im only working if my boss needs me back in next week. if not im looking for something new. i just decided it wasnt for me.

sorry you decided the job wasnt for you maybe you will find one with better hrs and more pay so you get to spend more time with chloe and new bub when you have one

me and oh had words about him still being married i know its not his fault she wont sign them just gets to me sometimes and makes me think maybe they dont want to end it right now

yeah i know. im feeling ok about it and much less stressed. i was so uptight about having to work for the new people. it be weird not going to work on monday and i suppose i will need to start job hunting.

im sure your oh wants to get married. sounds to me that she is holding onto something that has ended. dont understand why she doesnt just let you both get on with your lives.xx

sorry i aint replyed earlier lots going on this last wk hows the job hunting going bet your enjoying your extra time with chloe

hiya. still in the old job at the mo. takeover dont happen till thur and even when it does my boss has asked me to come in and help with stoockchecking and stuff. one of the place we deal with at work phoned me the other night they want me to go in and talk to them about a job sand its only across the road from me so that would be great if it worked out.x

how's you?

thats good news about the job near you. seren has been driving me crazy started potty training again cause she is telling me she needs to pee and stuff more now and does do it when she tells me but is still not happy about the potty thinks my leg and lap is better i can only manage half a pee on the potty and dont know what else to do have you had any luck with chloe

hiya. i got that job. i start a week on tues which im looking forward to. weve been on and off with the potty training. she been pretty unwell again recently. these bloody teeth have a lot to answer for. im working fulltime this week so going to start again next week with her.

i was out on sat night at my sil to be's hen night. i didnt even drink much but im still so tired this morning.xx

hi im going to leave the potty training again she just wont go anywhere near it right now im off away for the weekend we bought our own caravan monday so trying it out before the winter kicks in im off down on my own with seren today as oh has to work and his lo is in school so they will be down fri about 9pm cant wait to see the look on her face cause she dont know yet hope all goes well in your new job next wk

hiya. im sorry its taken so long to reply. cant get on at work now and the new job has be shattered. it good though day passes really quick coz there always something to do. how's the caravan it'll be great to have one of your own now. how's seren doing. chloe is driving me daft. most of the time she is refusing to eat and i can see the weight coming off her. ive been putting off going to the clinic till i could get her to gain some weight but i think im going to have to take to get checked out.